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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Yours was not complete it stopped in 2006

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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    And........? The financial system collapsed in 2008 and the Great Recession started in December 2007. It's not like that's a good time for budget austerity that we didn't see from the GOP in the bubble years.
    Got it, the GOP totally destroyed the economy all by themselves when they had total control of the Congress from 2003-2006. Barney Frank and Chris Dodd had no impact at all and did their best to prevent people for taking out loans they couldn't afford. Democrats didn't want their base to have homes thus were adamant that tighter reins be put on Freddie and Fannie but the GOP wouldn't listen.

    Now isn't that the re-write of history you want to believe?

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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Here is the film:

    Attachment 67175064
    Isn't it amazing that here we are in 2014 and you still cannot post what Obama has added to the debt? Have posted the debt many times but of course you ignored it as did all the liberals but here we go again

    Reagan 1.7 trillion
    GHW Bush 1.4 Trillion
    GW Bush 4.9 trillion

    Total 8.0 Trillion in 20 years

    Clinton 1.4 trillion
    Obama 7.2 trillion

    Total 8.6 trillion in 14 years

    U.S. Treasury Data

    Keep spinning and ignoring reality.

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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Isn't it amazing that here we are in 2014 and you still cannot post what Obama has added to the debt? Have posted the debt many times but of course you ignored it as did all the liberals but here we go again

    Reagan 1.7 trillion
    GHW Bush 1.4 Trillion
    GW Bush 4.9 trillion

    Total 8.0 Trillion in 20 years

    Clinton 1.4 trillion
    Obama 7.2 trillion

    Total 8.6 trillion in 14 years

    U.S. Treasury Data

    Keep spinning and ignoring reality.
    Its amazing, you make 47,800 posts (still playing only three cards) suggesting you understand politics and economics, but don't understand it at all. Debt changes are a result of an economic infrastructure, which is often set into place well before a president takes office. The "Obama debt" is substantially (not entirely, but substantially) the results of the spending (Wars) and tax structure established under Bush.

    If that statement seems contradictory to my previous post, it is to some extent. There is much more to understanding how the debt changes than to simply measure the debt when a President takes office and comparing it to when he leaves office. Politics and economics are each far more complicated than that analysis.

    Keep spinning and living in your own reality.

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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Got it, the GOP totally destroyed the economy all by themselves when they had total control of the Congress from 2003-2006. Barney Frank and Chris Dodd had no impact at all and did their best to prevent people for taking out loans they couldn't afford. Democrats didn't want their base to have homes thus were adamant that tighter reins be put on Freddie and Fannie but the GOP wouldn't listen.

    Now isn't that the re-write of history you want to believe?
    You're the master of straw men. Of course I never said or implied any of that. What I responded to was a statement:

    And a Democrat Senate, both houses were controlled by the Democrats from January 2007 to January 2011
    It's a random fact and we're left to guess at its relevance. So I responded with other facts, and tried to at least vaguely tie them into this conversation. If you think those events, the collapse of the financial system and beginning of the Great Recession, weren't relevant to the BUDGET and SPENDING in the period democrats controlled the house and senate, which is what we're talking about, then you can tell me why.

    Or let's forget about that part and I'll just ask this question:

    Democrats controlled the House and Senate beginning January 2007. So what? Why should I care?

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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Its amazing, you make 47,800 posts (still playing only three cards) suggesting you understand politics and economics, but don't understand it at all. Debt changes are a result of an economic infrastructure, which is often set into place well before a president takes office. The "Obama debt" is substantially (not entirely, but substantially) the results of the spending (Wars) and tax structure established under Bush.

    If that statement seems contradictory to my previous post, it is to some extent. There is much more to understanding how the debt changes than to simply measure the debt when a President takes office and comparing it to when he leaves office. Politics and economics are each far more complicated than that analysis.

    Keep spinning and living in your own reality.
    Believing that tax cuts pay for themselves is sort of a self proving demonstration of that.

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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Its amazing, you make 47,800 posts (still playing only three cards) suggesting you understand politics and economics, but don't understand it at all. Debt changes are a result of an economic infrastructure, which is often set into place well before a president takes office. The "Obama debt" is substantially (not entirely, but substantially) the results of the spending (Wars) and tax structure established under Bush.

    If that statement seems contradictory to my previous post, it is to some extent. There is much more to understanding how the debt changes than to simply measure the debt when a President takes office and comparing it to when he leaves office. Politics and economics are each far more complicated than that analysis.

    Keep spinning and living in your own reality.
    Yeah, spending versus income is complicated for Democrats, which is why we see so many of them on welfare and food stamps.

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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yeah, spending versus income is complicated for Democrats, which is why we see so many of them on welfare and food stamps.
    LOL. Perfect example of Non sequitur!!

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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Its amazing, you make 47,800 posts (still playing only three cards) suggesting you understand politics and economics, but don't understand it at all. Debt changes are a result of an economic infrastructure, which is often set into place well before a president takes office. The "Obama debt" is substantially (not entirely, but substantially) the results of the spending (Wars) and tax structure established under Bush.

    If that statement seems contradictory to my previous post, it is to some extent. There is much more to understanding how the debt changes than to simply measure the debt when a President takes office and comparing it to when he leaves office. Politics and economics are each far more complicated than that analysis.

    Keep spinning and living in your own reality.
    Well thank you very much for that incredible analysis. Do you really think we pay debt service on the debt? didn't you post that Democrat Presidents have less debt as a percentage than Republicans and now you want to make this bs claim. We do not pay debt service on the percentage change but rather the debt. Do you still not understand that? Do you really think that taking the debt from 900 billion to 2.6 trillion(Reagan) is worse than taking the debt from 10.6 trillion to 17.8 trillion(Obama)?

    Apparently what you also don't understand is that debt comes from deficits and deficits are yearly? You blame Bush for the wars when the costs of those wars are included in the deficits for the year in which they were generated. Please educate yourself and stop buying the liberal rhetoric.


    You are the one spinning, I didn't post that colorful chart that you did, a chart that is irrelevant as debt service matters not percentage change.

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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    You're the master of straw men. Of course I never said or implied any of that. What I responded to was a statement:



    It's a random fact and we're left to guess at its relevance. So I responded with other facts, and tried to at least vaguely tie them into this conversation. If you think those events, the collapse of the financial system and beginning of the Great Recession, weren't relevant to the BUDGET and SPENDING in the period democrats controlled the house and senate, which is what we're talking about, then you can tell me why.

    Or let's forget about that part and I'll just ask this question:

    Democrats controlled the House and Senate beginning January 2007. So what? Why should I care?
    Of course you didn't but apparently you also don't understand sarcasm for that seems to be what you believe. As for why you should care who controls the House and Senate, basic civics. Policies and spending begin in the Congress. Democrats could have put into place financial reform but didn't, rather they refused Bush initiatives.

    Why should you care? Because you look foolish buying the leftwing spin.

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