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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    If GOPers want to cut taxes, fine by me. Make the very difficult choices to cut spending to offset the loss in revenue from the tax cuts.

    What I'm objecting to as a fairy tale is the notion that "keeping more of what you earn" (i.e. tax cuts) don't require offsetting spending cuts. Instead, GOPers tell us, and Jack quoted an article in Forbes telling us, that tax cuts pay for themselves and increase revenues, or that there is a Tax Santa Clause.
    Do you realize who is in the WH? Name for me the budget cuts from Obama and Democrats? Obama proposed a 3.9 trillion dollar budget so tell me what he proposed to cut? Everytime the GOP proposes cuts they are attacked for starving kids, killing seniors, and polluting the air

    Tax cuts always increase govt. revenue as evidenced by JFK, Reagan, and Bush due to the boom in economic activity. Liberals like you have been brainwashed into believing that the liberal elites tell you

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    Do you realize who is in the WH? Name for me the budget cuts from Obama and Democrats? Obama proposed a 3.9 trillion dollar budget so tell me what he proposed to cut? Everytime the GOP proposes cuts they are attacked for starving kids, killing seniors, and polluting the air
    We disagree on spending levels. And the GOP had control of the WH, House and Senate in the Bush years. Show me the big spending reductions....

    Tax cuts always increase govt. revenue as evidenced by JFK, Reagan, and Bush due to the boom in economic activity. Liberals like you have been brainwashed into believing that the liberal elites tell you
    Sorry, but there is no Tax Santa Clause. It's odd that you think those of us who dismiss the existence of a Tax Santa Clause are the ones who have been brainwashed. It's math and liberals embrace math, supported by evidence. I'd love to believe in magic, a free lunch, the notion that spending increases that everyone loves can be paid for with the tax cuts everyone loves, and governing requires a series of easy choices where everyone wins, but the data prevent me from doing so.

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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    We disagree on spending levels. And the GOP had control of the WH, House and Senate in the Bush years. Show me the big spending reductions....
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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    JasperL;1063912177]We disagree on spending levels. And the GOP had control of the WH, House and Senate in the Bush years. Show me the big spending reductions....
    Bush never had a trillion dollar deficit and never had the debt over 100% of GDP

    Sorry, but there is no Tax Santa Clause. It's odd that you think those of us who dismiss the existence of a Tax Santa Clause are the ones who have been brainwashed. It's math and liberals embrace math, supported by evidence. I'd love to believe in magic, a free lunch, the notion that spending increases that everyone loves can be paid for with the tax cuts everyone loves, and governing requires a series of easy choices where everyone wins, but the data prevent me from doing so.
    Only in the liberal world is people keeping more of what they earn a gift from Santa Claus. Do you realize how foolish you sound? Only in your world is a massive central govt. that has established entitlement programs that consume over 60% of the Federal Budget. Governing does require making a choice and you have made yours, a large central govt. and a 3.9 trillion dollar budget. You must be so proud. Does debt service ever cross your mind? It is currently the 4th largest budget item and that is due only to very low interest rates.

    Only in the liberal world are people not smart enough to spend their own money. Seems that people who support Obama fit that classification

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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

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    Supreme Court allows Texas to enforce new voter ID law for November election | Fox News

    Again, TX gets it right. Liberals aren't going to steal an election in TX by having the dead vote
    If you cant prove who you are then you don't legally exist and if you don't legally exist then you cant vote....

    When I vote here in Illinois I show the delegate my ID - just to make a point - I insist. Of course they refuse it, hell they wont even look at me.

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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    All bets are off in war.
    There's always a good excuse for GOPers to spend more money, while cutting taxes. But if you look at the record, the GOP and Bush II expanded non-defense domestic spending more than any POTUS since LBJ.

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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    There's always a good excuse for GOPers to spend more money, while cutting taxes. But if you look at the record, the GOP and Bush II expanded non-defense domestic spending more than any POTUS since LBJ.
    Yet Bush never had trillion dollar deficits nor did Bush ever have the debt at 100% of GDP. Yes, Bush and Congress spent too much but Obama put Bush spending on steroids as well as forgot to ship those shovels for shovel ready jobs to create more taxpayers. He then implemented a failed 844 billion dollar stimulus, recycled TARP money, took over Chrysler/GM, funded the Afghanistan war through supplemental expenditures, and added money to the Bush proposed budget knowing that you and others would blame Bush for the 2009 deficit. Simple facts always get in the way of that liberal rhetoric and opinions

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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Only in the liberal world is people keeping more of what they earn a gift from Santa Claus. Do you realize how foolish you sound?
    You've nicely side stepped the point and intentionally misrepresented what I mean by Tax Santa Clause. I'll requote the actual point.

    "I'd love to believe in magic, a free lunch, the notion that spending increases that everyone loves can be paid for with the tax cuts everyone loves, and governing requires a series of easy choices where everyone wins, but the data prevent me from doing so. "

    Tax cuts don't pay for themselves.

    Only in your world is a massive central govt. that has established entitlement programs that consume over 60% of the Federal Budget. Governing does require making a choice and you have made yours, a large central govt. and a 3.9 trillion dollar budget. You must be so proud. Does debt service ever cross your mind? It is currently the 4th largest budget item and that is due only to very low interest rates.

    Only in the liberal world are people not smart enough to spend their own money. Seems that people who support Obama fit that classification
    Entitlements are supported by republicans and democrats. So is defense spending. The rest of government hasn't grown much at all under Obama.

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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    You've nicely side stepped the point and intentionally misrepresented what I mean by Tax Santa Clause. I'll requote the actual point.

    "I'd love to believe in magic, a free lunch, the notion that spending increases that everyone loves can be paid for with the tax cuts everyone loves, and governing requires a series of easy choices where everyone wins, but the data prevent me from doing so. "

    Tax cuts don't pay for themselves.



    Entitlements are supported by republicans and democrats. So is defense spending. The rest of government hasn't grown much at all under Obama.
    Didn't side step it at all. You seem to have a problem in that you buy what the left tells you. You do not have to pay for tax cuts since all tax cuts led to stimulated activity and more tax revenue PLUS tax cuts allow people to keep more of what you earn. The U.S. Treasury Website is your friend, use it. TAX CUTS DO NOT HAVE TO BE PAID FOR AS THEY ARE NOT AN EXPENSE TO THE GOVT.

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