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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Yet conservatives ignore all the Nixon dirty tricks to get these IDs in the confederate states .
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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Yet conservatives ignore all the Nixon dirty tricks to get these IDs in the confederate states .
    What does Nixon have to do with the Obama broken promise or results? Since you obviously didn't like what you believe Nixon did then why do you condone what Obama has proven to have done or the Democrat Party has done?

    I guess offering cigarettes to voters along with lunches and other "stuff" including providing the vans is certainly ok to you? How about using those vans to drive people to get their voter ID's??

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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by JumpinJack View Post
    Once again (this gets so old), there is not one iota of evidence that there is widespread voter fraud in the country OR in Texas.

    To the contrary, you are in favor of the law because it means that it will hurt your opposition party and help your party. It is you who are the one with an ethics and morality problem, seems to me. It is wrong to pass a law that results in widespread discrimination among a minority class, esp. when it has been expressed by GOP leaders that that is the purpose of the law.

    You should be ashamed of yourself for willingness to take away citizens' right to vote.

    It sounds simple on the face of things, but having been poor, I know it is not a simple thing for many people to get a photo ID. The cost, for one thing, is prohibitive for some. THAT IS THE SAME THING AS CHARGING PEOPLE TO VOTE.

    As a moral and ethical thing, a citizen should not have to pay to vote. It's a citzenship right, even if you are dirt poor, without a dime.

    You are in questionable company of years past of Jim Crow laws...the kind of people that favored those laws. That is who you are, you have now explained.
    Tell you what, use those vans Democrat operatives use to drive people to the polls to drive people to get their FREE Voter Photo ID's. You have a problem with that?

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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    It is quite interesting how smart liberals tell us their base is yet apparently many cannot get an photo id to vote even though they need a photo ID to do almost everything else these days. If they want to vote badly enough and if they are smart enough they will get their ID.
    Well, obviously roughly 400,000-600,000 REGISTERED VOTERS in Texas do NOT need a Photo ID acceptable to vote under the new rules to go about their daily lives. It's funny that this basic fact can't sink in with conservatives.

    They need "ID" but as people keep saying 1,000 different ways, "ID" =/= one of the very limited forms of photo ID acceptable to Republicans in Texas to cast a vote in person at the polls.

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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Well, obviously roughly 400,000-600,000 REGISTERED VOTERS in Texas do NOT need a Photo ID acceptable to vote under the new rules to go about their daily lives. It's funny that this basic fact can't sink in with conservatives.

    They need "ID" but as people keep saying 1,000 different ways, "ID" =/= one of the very limited forms of photo ID acceptable to Republicans in Texas to cast a vote in person at the polls.
    Glad to hear that you support the TX law. Why did liberals take the issue to the Supreme Court?

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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    The Democrat party was responsible for those very Jim Crow laws you Libs are apparently so fond of.

    AND they filibustered the 1964 voting rights act.
    Never heard of this "Democrat" party....

    And of course it was conservative whites in Southern states who filibustered the CRA and VRA, etc. Democrats in the rest of the country supported those bills at a higher rate then republicans. And now southern conservatives whites are nearly all republicans.

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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Glad to hear that you support the TX law. Why did liberals take the issue to the Supreme Court?
    I see reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. There is no reason to make 400,000 Texans spend the time and money to get an ID they do not need in their daily lives just so they can exercise their right to vote.

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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Yes. A good trade. The state is upholding its end of the bargain. Those who do not get their ID are not upholding theirs.
    That's remarkably weak.

    So if your state's legislature decides that to exercise your right to own a gun, you need to register your weapon and pay an annual $500/year fee, it's OK because any law that the legislature passes that makes exercising a right contingent on jumping through expensive hoops is OK, even if gun registration has no effect on crime, gun deaths, etc.? Costly and time consuming registration of every firearm is just an "obligation" of being a citizen, and obviously you must support such a program!

    You can't believe that.

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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    What "obligations" are you talking about? Specifically?

    You can pay taxes without ID, and set your trash out without ID. You don't actually need a photo ID to board a flight, and obviously most poor have never and will never fly on a plane.

    You're confusing the obligations in YOUR life with the obligations for someone who lives an entirely different life.


    24 things that require a photo ID

    TOPICS: BELTWAY CONFIDENTIAL VOTER REGISTRATION

    Voter-ID laws continue to get a lot of attention, and proponents of the law are being drowned out by opponents claiming the laws discriminate against certain voters.

    Rather than getting IDs to the people who are supposedly disenfranchised, opponents spend their efforts trying to end the laws, even though polls consistently show overwhelming majorities of voters approve of the laws.

    Below are just some of the examples of things you need to prove your identity for:

    1. Alcohol

    2. Cigarettes

    3. Opening a bank account

    4. Apply for food stamps

    5. Apply for welfare

    6. Apply for Medicaid/Social Security

    7. Apply for unemployment or a job

    8. Rent/buy a house, apply for a mortgage

    9. Drive/buy/rent a car

    10. Get on an airplane

    11. Get married

    12. Purchase a gun

    13. Adopt a pet

    14. Rent a hotel room

    15. Apply for a hunting license

    16. Apply for a fishing license

    17. Buy a cell phone

    18. Visit a casino

    19. Pick up a prescription

    20. Hold a rally or protest

    21. Blood donations

    22. Buy an "M" rated video game

    23. Purchase nail polish at CVS

    24. Purchase certain cold medicines

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/24...rticle/2534254

    In reality, you have to have a photo ID to live in today's world. Most states make it relatively easy to procure one, and most dont even charge for just the basic ID

    I really dont know what all the fuss is about.....i kinda like knowing that the person voting is the person actually registered to vote....yes?
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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    In reality, you have to have a photo ID to live in today's world. Most states make it relatively easy to procure one, and most dont even charge for just the basic ID

    I really dont know what all the fuss is about.....i kinda like knowing that the person voting is the person actually registered to vote....yes?
    I won't bother going through the list, much of it provably BS and either false or can be done without one of the IDs on the list of IDs accepted for voting, but NO ONE OBJECTS TO THE BASIC FACT that some small percentage of citizens do not need the photo ID's acceptable to vote in some states to get through their daily lives. Posts like this are an attempt to dispute facts that aren't actually in dispute or contested by supporters of the photo ID voting laws.

    It's bizarre that conservatives cannot accept simple facts in evidence, accepted by both proponents and opponents of photo ID voting rules, presented in court, subject to discovery and cross examination, etc. It's just weird how a movement now feels free to disregard reality when making an argument.

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