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    Re: Police Officer in Ferguson Is Said to Recount a Struggle

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Um, excuse me....The report from Wilson's side, as rendered by the girlfriend some time ago, already answered your question here. To paraphrase, she said that Wilson told her that after the tussle in the car, Brown, and Johnson were fleeing, when Brown stopped, turned, and started taunting the just assualted Wilson, stepping toward him saying "You ain't gonna shoot me, what you gonna do?" Now, Wilson who had just been in a fight with Brown, with Brown going for his gun was supposed to do what in your eyes? Holster his weapon like some cheesy Law and Order episode and talk him down with logic?

    This is the real world, not some TV set, with a story line to follow. Wilson, told the man that just fought him to follow his order, and surrender, and Brown continued to believe that he could just engage the officer and beat his ass with NO repercussion....He was wrong....That's what you get for making horrible decisions...

    The fact that you think some unrealistic scenerio of Brown being logical, and giving in to some calm TV ending where no one is hurt, and the cop is rhetorically sophisticated enough to appeal to an adrenaline pumped street thug that was in full show off mode for his friend, is absurd and ridiculous...

    No charges will be forthcoming for this officer, and shouldn't be...If the community wants to trash their home for that, then they are as challenged as Brown was that fateful day.
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    Re: Police Officer in Ferguson Is Said to Recount a Struggle

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Fear, adrenaline...have you ever been in a shootout?
    Thing is, he's supposed to be the professional. As an officer, it's his duty to be above that and he should have been trained to handle situation such as that.
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    Re: Police Officer in Ferguson Is Said to Recount a Struggle

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Fear, adrenaline...have you ever been in a shootout?
    This wasn't a shootout. A shootout is a a gun battle between 2 armed groups.
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    Re: Police Officer in Ferguson Is Said to Recount a Struggle

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Thing is, he's supposed to be the professional. As an officer, it's his duty to be above that and he should have been trained to handle situation such as that.
    He's a patrolman in a suburd. Not a soldier in Delta Force. The level of discipline and machine-like performance you're asking for exists only on TV.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Police Officer in Ferguson Is Said to Recount a Struggle

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Thing is, he's supposed to be the professional. As an officer, it's his duty to be above that and he should have been trained to handle situation such as that.
    No training in the world completely eliminates fear or an adrenaline dump. Besides, most LE training trains that use of force is used until the threat is gone. So either the training worked as intended or it didn't.

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    Re: Police Officer in Ferguson Is Said to Recount a Struggle

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    This wasn't a shootout. A shootout is a a gun battle between 2 armed groups.
    Wilson's life was in danger. The same emotions took control. Have YOU ever been in a shootout? Had to fire shots in anger, because you believe you were only seconds away from dieing? If you haven't, you probably save the the self righteous judgement.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Police Officer in Ferguson Is Said to Recount a Struggle

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishstyx View Post
    No training in the world completely eliminates fear or an adrenaline dump. Besides, most LE training trains that use of force is used until the threat is gone. So either the training worked as intended or it didn't.
    It appears Wilson's training worked exactly how it was intended.
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    Re: Police Officer in Ferguson Is Said to Recount a Struggle

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Wilson's life was in danger. The same emotions took control. Have YOU ever been in a shootout? Had to fire shots in anger, because you believe you were only seconds away from dieing? If you haven't, you probably save the the self righteous judgement.
    It wasn't a shootout. I am not saying that the shooting wasn't justified. I simply pointing out that it wasn't a shootout. This officer most likely has never been involved in a shootout. I have never been involved in a shootout. I am pretty certain you have never been involved in a shootout. The vast majority of people have never been involved in a shootout and most people that have were while actively serving in combat. So while he may well have had reason to fear for his life, it wasn't a shootout as you have to have someone shooting back at you for it to be a shootout.
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    Re: Police Officer in Ferguson Is Said to Recount a Struggle

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    That's one side. What did Michael Brown have to say?
    Brown said, "I'm taking his gun. I might use it to kill him. I'll show him who's boss".

    Brown started a fight and lost. Had he just chilled-the-hell-out he would be alive.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Police Officer in Ferguson Is Said to Recount a Struggle

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    It wasn't a shootout. I am not saying that the shooting wasn't justified. I simply pointing out that it wasn't a shootout. This officer most likely has never been involved in a shootout. I have never been involved in a shootout. I am pretty certain you have never been involved in a shootout. The vast majority of people have never been involved in a shootout and most people that have were while actively serving in combat. So while he may well have had reason to fear for his life, it wasn't a shootout as you have to have someone shooting back at you for it to be a shootout.
    Then why muck up the thread if you think Wilson was justified and was actually afraid for his life? Just let it go.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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