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    Re: Police Officer in Ferguson Is Said to Recount a Struggle

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    Police Officer in Ferguson Is Said to Recount a Struggle

    By MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT, MATT APUZZO and JULIE BOSMANOCT. 17, 2014

    WASHINGTON — The police officer who fatally shot Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., two months ago has told investigators that he was pinned in his vehicle and in fear for his life as he struggled over his gun with Mr. Brown, according to government officials briefed on the federal civil rights investigation into the matter.

    The officer, Darren Wilson, has told the authorities that during the scuffle, Mr. Brown reached for the gun. It was fired twice in the car, according to forensics tests performed by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The first bullet struck Mr. Brown in the arm; the second bullet missed.

    The forensics tests showed Mr. Brown’s blood on the gun, as well as on the interior door panel and on Officer Wilson’s uniform. Officer Wilson told the authorities that Mr. Brown had punched and scratched him repeatedly, leaving swelling on his face and cuts on his neck.

    This is the first public account of Officer Wilson’s testimony to investigators, but it does not explain why, after he emerged from his vehicle, he fired at Mr. Brown multiple times. It contradicts some witness accounts, and it will not calm those who have been demanding to know why an unarmed man was shot a total of six times. Mr. Brown’s death continues to fuel anger and sometimes-violent protests.


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    Re: Police Officer in Ferguson Is Said to Recount a Struggle

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Conspiracy by the DA to cover up a shooting crime is also a crime .
    Have any proof of that what so ever or just more nonsense

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    Re: Police Officer in Ferguson Is Said to Recount a Struggle

    CNN never took the credibility of the witness to account. The THUG Brown traveled with is their witness that gave an account of an officer shooting an unarmed man trying to surrender. They ran with that story with NO evidence other than the THUG's statement and to be honest they should lose their license to do business over such a failure and lack of common sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by BringIt View Post
    As with any case, you must take the credibility of each and every witness into account.

    Were their testimonies tainted by peer pressure, the heat of the moment, and/or a common agenda. What is the veracity of their story? Do they (the witnesses, on a case by case basis) have an ax to grind with the police. Have they been previously arrested, or have they been caught in previous lies?

    You know they will look at every facet of the cop's history. It's only fair that the credibility of each witness be examined and considered.




    It could also be argued that there is no forensic proof that he was NOT charging (at the time he was killed).

    However, the video of him strong-arming and robbing the store moments before speaks to his state of mind.
    Now add the uncontested fact that he aggressively attacked the officer in his car demonstrates his crazed indifference.

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    Re: Police Officer in Ferguson Is Said to Recount a Struggle

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    What's your take on why the cop had to turn him into swiss cheese?
    Is there a law that states when an officer should stop defending himself?

    Did the officer have a toxicology report on the attacker? Did he know if the attacker was supercharged on PCP or some other form of drug? After all, would someone in their right mind attack a police officer seated in his car in the middle of the street, in the middle of the day?

    Does the cop have the right to stand his ground or is he required to shoot and run? Is he required to shoot and then wait to analyze the effect of his shot, before firing another round?

    Once deadly force is deemed appropriate, is an officer required to step back and reevaluate on a shot by shot basis?

    Was the cop a human? Under stress? Was his adenine pumping after his life and death struggle in the car seconds before?
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    Re: Police Officer in Ferguson Is Said to Recount a Struggle

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Is the guy in blue (with his hands up) surrenderng?

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    What an ignorant comparison!

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    Re: Police Officer in Ferguson Is Said to Recount a Struggle

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishstyx View Post
    You're leaving something out, remember, Wilson had just sustained blows to the face. So him just being "angry" doesn't really fly here. Sure there were a combination of emotions going through him.

    The last wild card and the forensics may shed light on this as well is whether Brown charged him on the street. Some accounts say yes, some say no. If there is a blood trail on the road, it very well could corroborate the rest of Wilson's version. So, if Brown charged him after assaulting him in the car, the shooting is certainly justified.
    From what I know so far, the officer's injuries were minor and did not require hospitalization. But yeah, there is still more information needed to be pieced together.
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    Re: Police Officer in Ferguson Is Said to Recount a Struggle

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Conspiracy by the DA to cover up a shooting crime is also a crime .
    And the physical evidence seems to support Wilson's version of events, along woth the 2 or 3 witnesses who didn't lie their asses off to the entire country.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Police Officer in Ferguson Is Said to Recount a Struggle

    Quote Originally Posted by BringIt View Post
    Is there a law that states when an officer should stop defending himself?

    Did the officer have a toxicology report on the attacker? Did he know if the attacker was supercharged on PCP or some other form of drug? After all, would someone in their right mind attack a police officer seated in his car in the middle of the street, in the middle of the day?

    Does the cop have the right to stand his ground or is he required to shoot and run? Is he required to shoot and then wait to analyze the effect of his shot, before firing another round?

    Once deadly force is deemed appropriate, is an officer required to step back and reevaluate on a shot by shot basis?

    Was the cop a human? Under stress? Was his adenine pumping after his life and death struggle in the car seconds before?
    All I will say to this is the following: this story would have been another page 20 snippet had the killing not been so brutal. This made headlines because:
    1) six shots were fired.
    2) according to witness reports, Brown had his arms up in the air.
    “No men are anywhere, and I’m allowed to go in, because I’m the owner of the pageant and therefore I’m inspecting it,” Trump said... “‘Is everyone OK’? You know, they’re standing there with no clothes. ‘Is everybody OK?’ And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.”

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    Re: Police Officer in Ferguson Is Said to Recount a Struggle

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    What an ignorant comparison!
    How so? The argument is about whether the officer felt (should have known?) that the threat of (further) attack had ended - my example shows that hand position (alone) is a poor indication of intent.
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    Re: Police Officer in Ferguson Is Said to Recount a Struggle

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    What's your take on why the cop had to turn him into swiss cheese?
    Fear, adrenaline...have you ever been in a shootout?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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