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    Re: Police Officer in Ferguson Is Said to Recount a Struggle

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    Doesn't the fact that Brown's hands were up indicate that it was manslaughter, as opposed to justifiable?
    The weren't in the air as in he was surrendering, they were up as in he was bent forward charging (football style?) at the officer-which backs the officers account-the one that has never changed and is looking more and more likely.

    Add in that Brown had just attacked the officer (first) including grabbing his firearm-and no jury would convict on manslaughter. The officers actions were justified, both legally and ethically I'd argue.

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    Re: Police Officer in Ferguson Is Said to Recount a Struggle

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    The weren't in the air as in he was surrendering, they were up as in he was bent forward charging (football style?) at the officer-which backs the officers account-the one that has never changed and is looking more and more likely.

    Add in that Brown had just attacked the officer (first) including grabbing his firearm-and no jury would convict on manslaughter. The officers actions were justified, both legally and ethically I'd argue.
    But according to the witnesses he was surrendering. Is there forensic proof that he was charging (at the time he was killed)?

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    Re: Police Officer in Ferguson Is Said to Recount a Struggle

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    Dorian Johnson excepted, none of the witnesses denied that Brown attacked Wilson in his car.

    This doesn't discredit the evidence of manslaughter.

    There is no evidence of manslaughter.
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    Re: Police Officer in Ferguson Is Said to Recount a Struggle

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    Doesn't the fact that Brown's hands were up indicate that it was manslaughter, as opposed to justifiable?
    What you call a "fact", isn't a fact at all.

    The original claim was that his hands were up surrendering.
    Other witnesses mimicked that false claim.
    That claim, from these witnesses then went from - they were up surrendering, to - they were up just a little, to - they were just going up.
    Secondly. "Hands up" is a position of fact. (Which has already changed by the witnesses.)
    The interpretation of that, "surrendering", is nothing more than speculation, and given the circumstances, incredible speculation, as his hands up were most likely in the form of;, and at the same time he was, taunting the Officer about shooting him before he charged.
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    Re: Police Officer in Ferguson Is Said to Recount a Struggle

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Conspiracy by the DA to cover up a shooting crime is also a crime .
    Conspiracy? There is no conspiracy.
    You are speaking nonsense.


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    the ebola mess started in Texas dropping the ball every conceivable way?

    No, that mess started with one man lying to get into this country.


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    If he is guilty--hard to tell now with the way his politically-connected DA has botched the case.
    Botched?
    WTH are you talking about?
    There has been no botching.
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    Re: Police Officer in Ferguson Is Said to Recount a Struggle

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    But according to the witnesses he was surrendering. Is there forensic proof that he was charging (at the time he was killed)?
    No, according to ONE witness, the thug that had just robbed a store with Brown. The forensics revealed the gunshot wounds were at an angle that shows he was leaning forward, and the body was found in a position that backs this up.

    Add in that this happened AFTER Brown had punched and otherwise assaulted the cop, and had grabbed his gun managing to set it off twice INSIDE the cop car, and its clear why the cop shot him when he turned around, and charged back at the cop.

    Brown was a thug would be murderer and got what was coming to him. No manslaughter charges are pending, and I think the cop beats the civil charges that are probably coming as well.

    This was another attempt to stir up trouble and increase racial tensions for political and media benefit. There were even socialist thugs from the bay area (oakland) that went there just to excite these "youths" to violence. It got so bad that multiple police officers have been harmed and many businesses (mostly owned by blacks) have been destroyed-and all to fit a narrative-facts be damned.

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    Re: Police Officer in Ferguson Is Said to Recount a Struggle

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Conspiracy? There is no conspiracy.
    You are speaking nonsense.



    No, that mess started with one man lying to get into this country.



    Botched?
    WTH are you talking about?
    There has been no botching.
    Some of us have been conditioned into looking for a narrative/plot and wont stop looking until its found.

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    Re: Police Officer in Ferguson Is Said to Recount a Struggle

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Conspiracy? There is no conspiracy.
    You are speaking nonsense.



    No, that mess started with one man lying to get into this country.



    Botched?
    WTH are you talking about?
    There has been no botching.
    Some of us have been conditioned into looking for a narrative/plot and wont stop looking until its found.

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    Re: Police Officer in Ferguson Is Said to Recount a Struggle

    I suspect that the so-called witnesses to the incident were asked to write about what they had seen and then sign their name I.e. filling out a police report. Well, falsifying one is a felony. I anticipate prosecutions for those whom spread disinformation and libel which helped cause Ferguson to look like a War Zone. Nevertheless, I similarly anticipate Ferguson to erupt once again after this police officer is cleared of any wrongdoing.

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    Re: Police Officer in Ferguson Is Said to Recount a Struggle

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    Police Officer in Ferguson Is Said to Recount a Struggle

    By MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT, MATT APUZZO and JULIE BOSMANOCT. 17, 2014

    WASHINGTON — The police officer who fatally shot Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., two months ago has told investigators that he was pinned in his vehicle and in fear for his life as he struggled over his gun with Mr. Brown, according to government officials briefed on the federal civil rights investigation into the matter.

    The officer, Darren Wilson, has told the authorities that during the scuffle, Mr. Brown reached for the gun. It was fired twice in the car, according to forensics tests performed by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The first bullet struck Mr. Brown in the arm; the second bullet missed.

    The forensics tests showed Mr. Brown’s blood on the gun, as well as on the interior door panel and on Officer Wilson’s uniform. Officer Wilson told the authorities that Mr. Brown had punched and scratched him repeatedly, leaving swelling on his face and cuts on his neck.

    This is the first public account of Officer Wilson’s testimony to investigators, but it does not explain why, after he emerged from his vehicle, he fired at Mr. Brown multiple times. It contradicts some witness accounts, and it will not calm those who have been demanding to know why an unarmed man was shot a total of six times. Mr. Brown’s death continues to fuel anger and sometimes-violent protests.


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    Police Officer in Ferguson Is Said to Recount a Struggle


    The false narrative continues to fall apart while the lying witnesses become exposed for what they truly are.
    That's one side. What did Michael Brown have to say?
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