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    Re: Police Officer in Ferguson Is Said to Recount a Struggle

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    What training do you feel would enable YOU to handle being physically attacked by a much stronger person?
    Do you not hold a trained police officer to a much higher standard?
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: Police Officer in Ferguson Is Said to Recount a Struggle

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Complete BS by someone who knows absolutely nothing about self defense. This is about RACE, hating white people, making black people out to be a victim, and the politics of extreme left vote buying.

    Ahhhhhh... no.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: Police Officer in Ferguson Is Said to Recount a Struggle

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    That's 2 shots. There were four more.

    And no, I am not a conspiracy theorist. But it does not take one to think that perhaps the officer used too much force...

    Once deadly force is required, you shoot to kill. Reload if you have too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    I'd venture to opine that the officer was pissed and let his anger take over...
    If you are not on the jury your unqualified assumption has no merit. Prove it.



    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    rather than handle this situation in the manner that he should have been trained.
    Once again a false assumption. I'd venture to opine that you have received little or no train in the use of deadly force, never walked a live fire simulator. I'd venture to opine that you have no real knowledge of his training or what his personal experiences are that have influenced his actions on that day.




    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    From what I know, Michael Brown was certainly more a thug than a hero.
    Cute.

    I'd venture to opine that the cop was more of a hero than the despicable person that you are trying to make him out as.


    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Regardless, the brutality of his death should not be overlooked, don't you think?
    Your right! It should stand as warning to others. You attack a cop for no good reason and you stand a very good chance that you will meet deadly force in return.
    Wake Up America!

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    Re: Police Officer in Ferguson Is Said to Recount a Struggle

    My I suggest you take a defensive shooting class. You have no concept of reality here. Police are told to keep shooting until the threat is gone. They are not trained to shoot once or twice and stop, look and see if the threat is gone.

    Police officers are taught to live and not hope they will after a couple of rounds.

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Ahhhhhh... no.

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    Re: Police Officer in Ferguson Is Said to Recount a Struggle

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Do you not hold a trained police officer to a much higher standard?
    You are not so confused as to evade my simple question. They are not trained to simply accept being beaten and having their gun taken from them.

    What standard do you propose for the use of deadly force that they are issued?

    There was no question as to whether the trained officer faced a brutal attack, only whether the attack was truly over. Simply because one is not armed does not mean that they pose no serious physical threat.
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    Re: Police Officer in Ferguson Is Said to Recount a Struggle

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    My I suggest you take a defensive shooting class. You have no concept of reality here. Police are told to keep shooting until the threat is gone. They are not trained to shoot once or twice and stop, look and see if the threat is gone.

    Police officers are taught to live and not hope they will after a couple of rounds.
    How many times do we hear of an assailant turned into Swiss cheese?
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: Police Officer in Ferguson Is Said to Recount a Struggle

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post

    There was no question as to whether the trained officer faced a brutal attack,
    There's no question? I read that he didn't need hospitalization. Link please.

    only whether the attack was truly over.
    Really? We must read different newspapers cuz I was under the impression that after the kerfuffle in the cruiser, Michael ran and eventually held up his arms in surrender.

    Simply because one is not armed does not mean that they pose no serious physical threat.
    Do you honestly think that it's an even playing field when one has a gun and the other doesn't? Please...
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: Police Officer in Ferguson Is Said to Recount a Struggle

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    There's no question? I read that he didn't need hospitalization. Link please.



    Really? We must read different newspapers cuz I was under the impression that after the kerfuffle in the cruiser, Michael ran and eventually held up his arms in surrender.



    Do you honestly think that it's an even playing field when one has a gun and the other doesn't? Please...
    Here is a link or two:

    New Report: During Physical Confrontation with Brown, Police Officer Sustained Serious Injury

    Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown, says source | Fox News
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    Re: Police Officer in Ferguson Is Said to Recount a Struggle

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    How so? The argument is about whether the officer felt (should have known?) that the threat of (further) attack had ended - my example shows that hand position (alone) is a poor indication of intent.
    Michael Brown wasn't a boxer, and he certainly wasn't wearing boxing gloves. Surely you aren't saying that Brown was taking a boxing stance several feet away facing someone with a gun who had already shot him, are you? Other than these major differences your comparison is spot on.

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    Re: Police Officer in Ferguson Is Said to Recount a Struggle

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    What evidence?
    The testimony that Brown was surrendering at the time of his death.

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