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    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Then he needs to find one that they all can agree on. One that is not politically motivated to be a yes man.
    Any nominee has already been deemed unqualified by the GOP, simply due to the fact that they're an Obama nominee.

    The steadfast refusal of some to admit the GOP's role in the dark side of politics is laughable. It's like some of you actually believe that EVERYTHING bad is 100% the exclusive province of the Democrats, and the GOP are just innocent victims. It's mindblowing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Any nominee has already been deemed unqualified by the GOP, simply due to the fact that they're an Obama nominee.

    The steadfast refusal of some to admit the GOP's role in the dark side of politics is laughable. It's like some of you actually believe that EVERYTHING bad is 100% the exclusive province of the Democrats, and the GOP are just innocent victims. It's mindblowing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    They were both very anti 2A and the NRA stepped up and proved that.
    I don't care, since gun policy does not fall under the purview of the Surgeon General.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I don't care, since gun policy does not fall under the purview of the Surgeon General.
    Yes it can. Remember the push to have doctors ask about gun ownership during visits? Or were you not paying attention? Or were you fine with it?

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    Yea, screw'em. Make them walk across the border like everyone else.

    That's one hell of a long walk.

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    Re: Obama will name Ron Klain as Ebola Czar

    Hey look. Once again the same bit of propoganda gets pushed for a third time in this thread. Lets see if we go three for three with individuals not responding.

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Obama doesn't get to have one to fight ebola again?
    There is a Surgeon General currently, in an acting capacity. It is an individual the Obama Administration appointed. The position is not empty and non-existant. This is one of the large reasons they have "deputy" positions in the United States government.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    The surgeon General grip is as bull**** political theater and partisan propaganda as the direct flight ban is

    I don't know if people are honestly ignorant of how government works or if their just purposefully dishonest hyper partisan hacks, but either way as a government employee let me fill you in on how things work with significant position spike the surgeon general

    They're never "vacant". We have an acting Surgeon General today, Boris Lushniak. He was named deputy surgeon General in 2010 under Obama's administration and is currently the acting surgeon general...which is precisely one of the main reason the government uses deputee executives, so that there is no lag in the position between official appointments.

    Bitching about the surgeon General is like bitching about the directly fought ban...political theater. We have one, in the position due to an appointment by this administration. Either he's competent for the job, in which case all the political posturing is simply using this crisis to bash republicans in a hollow fashion, or he's not competent in which case sure...we need to hurry up and appoint an SG and then we need to see why we had an incompetent deputee appointed.

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    Re: Obama will name Ron Klain as Ebola Czar

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Yes it can. Remember the push to have doctors ask about gun ownership during visits? Or were you not paying attention? Or were you fine with it?
    I believe you just proved Kobie's point about GOP/ Fauxnews driven opposition to anything Obama.


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    Re: Obama will name Ron Klain as Ebola Czar

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    I believe you just proved Kobie's point about Fauxnews driven opposition to anything Obama.
    How so? In fact Florida and other states refused to mandate doctors ask anyone during visits about firearms. Nothing faux about it.

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    Re: Obama will name Ron Klain as Ebola Czar

    Anyway about Klain, he shouldn't be there; he's technically unqualified.
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    Re: Obama will name Ron Klain as Ebola Czar

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Any nominee has already been deemed unqualified by the GOP, simply due to the fact that they're an Obama nominee.
    Let's assume for a moment you're right...that the GOP would deem anyone chosen by Obama as unqualified.

    That still does not actually mean their claims that this individual is unqualified are WRONG.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems you're implying he is competent for the job. If that's the case what you appear to be doing is using a sort of affirming the consequent fallacy. Essentially...

    Even if the candidate was qualified the GOP would say he's unqualified because he's an Obama Nominee.
    The GOP says he's unqualified because he's an Obama Nominee.
    Therefore Klain is qualified.

    Even if you question the motives behind the GOPs critique of this individual, I don't think you can honestly suggest that it's entirely unreasonable to offer criticism about the selection of an individual with zero medical experience being chosen to oversea a media "emergency". That's an entirely legitimate question to have regarding the potential qualifications of this individual.

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