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    Re: Why the FBI Director really wants to be able to access your iPhone

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    To me, the real news is that Apple and Google plan to release phones that are encryption-secure. Where even they themselves cannot access data without the user's password.

    No more wire taps...no more being able to track calls...

    Should this be allowed?

    The only "example" I could think of would be if gun manufacturers could manufacture guns with no ballistics.
    The first issue I have with this is, NO ONE is charged with "protecting our people", only with enforcing the law.


    And if we're concerned about enforcing the law...I THINK we have a law that is pretty relevant...
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Why the FBI Director really wants to be able to access your iPhone

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    You don't need Apple or Google to make your phone a black hole by the way. Its just uncommon. Secured phones are made for the government and corporations and private individuals already, Blackberry being the amongst them. They have been around for as long as there has been cellular communication.
    Other things to consider as phones continue to become more sophisticated and tied into computer networks are corporate espionage and cyberterrorism. If our government can have a backdoor, then so can a foreign government and/or cyberterrorist/hacker. People are naive if they think a key would be available to our government only. This is one reason why Blackberries are still in demand among corporations and why the company is likely to remain in business.
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    Re: Why the FBI Director really wants to be able to access your iPhone

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    No. I'll take my own experience over what Tom Brokaw says Main Street's thinking every day of the week. Tom Brokaw operates a Kool Ade stand.
    You're a good person with good intent, but sometimes you're also very naive. Times like this where you choose to wear blinders and extrapolate your own limited experience to somehow equaling the whole of society is a perfect example. I know this will be a shock, but there's a whole wide world out there that thinks and acts differently from your own little bubble.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Why the FBI Director really wants to be able to access your iPhone

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    No. I'll take my own experience over what Tom Brokaw says Main Street's thinking every day of the week. Tom Brokaw operates a Kool Ade stand.
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    Re: Why the FBI Director really wants to be able to access your iPhone

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    For terrorist yes.
    How will you know if someone is a terrorist if they have private conversations? Perhaps we should ban more than one person from going into the woods.

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    Re: Why the FBI Director really wants to be able to access your iPhone

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    Why make it easy for the bad guys? As long As the FBI needs warrants to search phones just as they do to search houses I don't see the problem. I assume you are fine with them searching homes with a warrant so what is the big deal with phones? Seems silly to me.
    The NSA does not use the usual warrant process. They have special secret courts that rarely turn down a warrant no matter how broad (ie metadata collection of everyone in the USA)

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    Re: Why the FBI Director really wants to be able to access your iPhone

    Google and ApplApple will make just enough of a big deal so everyone knows they have encryption that the government can't access. All the while, they will work closely with the government to ensure the government has all the access they want, whenever they want it.
    "Political speech and writing are largely the defense of the indefensible. . . . Thus political language has to consist largely of euphemism, question-begging and sheer cloudy vagueness."
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    Re: Why the FBI Director really wants to be able to access your iPhone

    True story...

    The government already had warnings and information on the Tsarnaev brothers and those clowns didn't use it to stop the plot. The government is far more concerned with spying on it's citizens. The scare tactics are being used to placate in ignorant populace.

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