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    Re: Why the FBI Director really wants to be able to access your iPhone

    The FBI (or any other government entity for that matter) has no business what's on my phone, who I'm talking to, or what I'm saying to them. Even with a court order I'm not giving them that information. I refuse to self incriminate myself. Anybody here hear about the 5th amendment?
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    Re: Why the FBI Director really wants to be able to access your iPhone

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Private conversations away from listening devices and hand delivered written docs are also hard to eavesdrop.

    People have no obligation to facilitate government surveillance. A law requiring such facilitation would violate the fifth amendment.
    Absolutely it would but with THIS supreme court I think the 5th Amendment might become the second one to be deemed irrelevant (the first being the 10th).
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    Re: Why the FBI Director really wants to be able to access your iPhone

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    If that happens bust them for it but in the meantime we can't let terrorist communicate freely
    When was the last time the government getting "busted" amounted to anything?
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    Re: Why the FBI Director really wants to be able to access your iPhone

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Absolutely it would but with THIS supreme court I think the 5th Amendment might become the second one to be deemed irrelevant (the first being the 10th).
    The fifth is already irrelevant. The courts just bypass it with lame excuses like claiming something is in the state interest to do.

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    Re: Why the FBI Director really wants to be able to access your iPhone

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The fifth is already irrelevant. The courts just bypass it with lame excuses like claiming something is in the state interest to do.
    "Compelling interest" has always translated in my mind to "We know it's not right, but we're going to do it anyway and we dare you to do anything about it."
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    Re: Why the FBI Director really wants to be able to access your iPhone

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    Exactly, they should only be able to get phones that cannot be encrypted. I'd feel safer that way.
    Assuming they are identified first?
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    Re: Why the FBI Director really wants to be able to access your iPhone

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    Assuming they are identified first?
    It would be a checkbox on the form.
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    Re: Why the FBI Director really wants to be able to access your iPhone

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Well. I guess that settles it. Because YOU have never heard anyone say so, then that must be indicative of everybody. It is spoken!



    I've heard it from a couple different sources, one being a blurb by Tom Brokaw that I listen to in the morning on the radio as I drive to work. Sorry, no link for the radio, though I'm pretty sure Tom Brokaw isn't prone to unwarranted fantasy.
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    Re: Why the FBI Director really wants to be able to access your iPhone

    The less the government is able to monitor private citizens - the better.

    I will take my chances with criminals.

    Besides, criminals could always use pre-paid cell phones (and if they had properly working brains in their heads, they would) that cannot be easily traced. Only a moronic criminal would use their personal, registered cell phone to plan/commit a crime with.

    The FBI just wants more Big Brother power over the masses...that is by FAR the main reason why they don't like encrypted phones (imo).

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    Re: Why the FBI Director really wants to be able to access your iPhone

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    It would be a checkbox on the form.
    Checkboxes are especially difficult for the devious criminals to go pass by!
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