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Obama: ‘I Felt Perfectly Safe’ Hugging, Kissing Hospital Workers Who Took Care Of Ebo

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This guy has the most important job in the US and he is kissing nurses that cared for an ebola patient? Yet another example of Obama's lack of intelligence and IMO another secret service breakdown. They should have said "Mr. president, we can't let you walk out into traffic and we can't let you kiss ebola nurses, now go sit down at your desk little boy and stay away from that red button thingy too. Wouldn't it be interesting if BO got sick because of this.

“I want to use myself as an example just so people have a sense of the science here. I shook hands with, hugged, and kissed, not the doctors, but a couple of the nurses at Emory because of the valiant work that they did in treating one of the patients. They followed the protocols, they knew what they were doing, and I felt perfectly safe doing so,”

Obama: ‘I Felt Perfectly Safe’ Hugging, Kissing Hospital Workers Who Took Care Of Ebola Patients « CBS DC

"In future news, Obama has died of Ebola."
 
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Aside the given drama any time I hear him kissing people I cringe. Kissed. Only the Nurses.

I just never have and never will understand what on earth is his deal with kissing women. Seriously.

It's a guy thing!
 
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Sweat- pretty doubtful as a vector of transmission, especially when it's not direct contact.

And it's not gonna happen until the guy gets a fever, which he was monitoring closely.

Sorry that people's hysteria over a nonexistent problem caused the bowling alley to close.

Sorry, I forgot you know more about Ebola than New York city health officials and the CDC.

It wasn't "people" that closed the bowling alley and have been poring over the doctor's credit card transactions to see where he was on Tuesday, it was the CDC.

He was at the bowling alley Tuesday night and reported a fever Wednesday morning. You don't know if he was contagious or not.
 
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Aside the given drama any time I hear him kissing people I cringe. Kissed. Only the Nurses.

I just never have and never will understand what on earth is his deal with kissing women. Seriously.

I wonder if he asked her first and got a definitive yes as is now required in California ??
 
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How you equate ideology with Ebola - truly amazing. Anecdotal (alleged) conversation with a conservative military doctor = cause and effect. Dizzying....

No, you didn't read what was written.

A Ebola immunization has existed, supposedly untested since 2011, which just so happens to be the same year that Obama changed all of the Ebola travel restrictions.

There is NOTHING that the Progressive-Fascists won't do for power, Louis Lerner showed that.

They make around 100Million doses of the Immunization, give it to "Their People", wait a few years, then work to bring Ebola to America.

Revolution and Transformation of America!

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Re: Obama: ‘I Felt Perfectly Safe’ Hugging, Kissing Hospital Workers Who Took Care Of

This guy has the most important job in the US and he is kissing nurses that cared for an ebola patient? Yet another example of Obama's lack of intelligence and IMO another secret service breakdown. They should have said "Mr. president, we can't let you walk out into traffic and we can't let you kiss ebola nurses, now go sit down at your desk little boy and stay away from that red button thingy too. Wouldn't it be interesting if BO got sick because of this.

“I want to use myself as an example just so people have a sense of the science here. I shook hands with, hugged, and kissed, not the doctors, but a couple of the nurses at Emory because of the valiant work that they did in treating one of the patients. They followed the protocols, they knew what they were doing, and I felt perfectly safe doing so,”

Obama: ‘I Felt Perfectly Safe’ Hugging, Kissing Hospital Workers Who Took Care Of Ebola Patients « CBS DC

Or....he's trying to calm the hysteria over this disease through example.
 
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Or....he's trying to calm the hysteria over this disease through example.

First you have to assume their is hysteria instead of genuine and legitimate concern.
 
Re: Obama: ‘I Felt Perfectly Safe’ Hugging, Kissing Hospital Workers Who Took Care Of

First you have to assume their is hysteria instead of genuine and legitimate concern.

There are a lot more things you should be worried about before Ebola. For some reason it's captured the imagination of the country but the chance of it ever impacting you directly is almost nonexistent....well unless you are a healthcare professional serving in West Africa.
 
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I wonder if he asked her first and got a definitive yes as is now required in California ??

He'd have another thing coming if he tried to kiss me - ugh. I'd flip. Lawsuit - sexual harassment against the President. (lol)
 
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Again, 99.5 isn't a fever.

For some yes, for other's no...it is slightly elevated....
 
Re: Obama: ‘I Felt Perfectly Safe’ Hugging, Kissing Hospital Workers Who Took Care Of

There are a lot more things you should be worried about before Ebola. For some reason it's captured the imagination of the country but the chance of it ever impacting you directly is almost nonexistent....well unless you are a healthcare professional serving in West Africa.

So now you get to tell people what they should be concerned about? Meh...:doh Well, I guess as long as you don't go bowling in NYC you'll be just fine...
 
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For some yes, for other's no...it is slightly elevated....

While your uninformed opinion is nice to see, I can tell you definitively that 99.5 is not a fever.
 
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While your uninformed opinion is nice to see, I can tell you definitively that 99.5 is not a fever.

Once again you try to speak with authority, and end up just looking foolish....

"The NHS says that a normal temperature is around 37C (98.6F), although it depends on:

The person
Their age
What they've been doing
The time of day
Which part of the body you take the temperature from
It is generally accepted that normal body temperature ranges between 36.1C (97F) to 37.2C (99F).

What is normal body temperature? Is my body temperature normal?

So, I am proven right, 99.5 is elevated, if even slightly.
 
Re: Obama: ‘I Felt Perfectly Safe’ Hugging, Kissing Hospital Workers Who Took Care Of

Once again you try to speak with authority, and end up just looking foolish....

"The NHS says that a normal temperature is around 37C (98.6F), although it depends on:

The person
Their age
What they've been doing
The time of day
Which part of the body you take the temperature from
It is generally accepted that normal body temperature ranges between 36.1C (97F) to 37.2C (99F).

What is normal body temperature? Is my body temperature normal?

So, I am proven right, 99.5 is elevated, if even slightly.

While we are all quite impressed by your google skilz, 99.5 is not a fever.
 
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While your uninformed opinion is nice to see, I can tell you definitively that 99.5 is not a fever.

Still masquerading as if you are a practitioner I see. Get back to me when you treat neutropenic patients.

Oh thats right, you dont practice.
 
Re: Obama: ‘I Felt Perfectly Safe’ Hugging, Kissing Hospital Workers Who Took Care Of

Still masquerading as if you are a practitioner I see. Get back to me when you treat neutropenic patients.

Oh thats right, you dont practice.

I'm sorry. Were we talking about neutropenia? No.

I'm pretty sure I've seen more neutropenia in my career than you. Unless you specialize in Oncology. And practiced before G-CSF, which I helped study.

And as you might not be aware, the threshold for immunocompromised patients is lower than others.
 
Re: Obama: ‘I Felt Perfectly Safe’ Hugging, Kissing Hospital Workers Who Took Care Of

Why is this even news?
 
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I'm sorry. Were we talking about neutropenia? No.

I'm pretty sure I've seen more neutropenia in my career than you. Unless you specialize in Oncology. And practiced before G-CSF, which I helped study.

And as you might not be aware, the threshold for immunocompromised patients is lower than others.

You dont "see" anything, pharmacist-you are not a medical practitioner. You "see" what you are shown-even in your highest functioning form as a hospital pharmacist. And even a slight fever like 99.5 is cause for concern in pancytopenic/neutropenic patients. I treat onc inpatients daily. You talk about chondroitin with gramma's.
 
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While we are all quite impressed by your google skilz, 99.5 is not a fever.

And yet he presented mere days later with a positive Ebola test...Hmmm, Imagine that.
 
Re: Obama: ‘I Felt Perfectly Safe’ Hugging, Kissing Hospital Workers Who Took Care Of

Obama's behavior is disingenuous, and obviously so.

He's basically executing behavior #1 yet telling us that's reason to do behavior #2, and, he knows it.

Behavior #1 is hugging and kissing a woman who actually had Ebola and who has recovered and now has the antibodies throughout her system and has been tested and no longer has the virus in her.

From a virological standpoint, she has got to be the safest person in the world to have close contact with regarding not catching Ebola!

In fact, if some of her antibodies get into Obama's system as a result, he's technically better protected from the disease!

That's behavior #1.

So, what's behavior #2?

Behavior #2 is "don't worry about Ebola, just listen to us about how the disease is spread, and those intelligent real concerns the great majority of you have about Ebola, that we in the administration are hesitant to do much about, if anything, like restricting those from West Africa without a quarantine and making sure hospitals are ready for walk-in Ebola patients and rounding up all those in Harlem who are now at risk because of Spencer and ignoring the evidence in West Africa that the disease can spread in air moisture droplets and ignoring WHO's recent presentation that the correct incubation period is 42 days not 21, and it's okay to kiss and hug someone who's just contracted the virus and hasn't yet shown much if any symptoms 'cause they're really no threat to you, etc.".

Yep, completely different.

But, that's the message this political posturing version of "baby kissing" The President just did is attempting: he's executing behavior #1 and then speaking behavior #2.

And that is so blatantly hypocritical it's disgusting.

So, Mr. President, you want to convey message #2 with an illustration?

Go hug and kiss a person intimately exposed to the virus who's just beginning to show symptoms if any!

Yeah, I'll bet even "you" won't do that to get your message across. :cool:
 
Re: Obama: ‘I Felt Perfectly Safe’ Hugging, Kissing Hospital Workers Who Took Care Of

This guy has the most important job in the US and he is kissing nurses that cared for an ebola patient? Yet another example of Obama's lack of intelligence and IMO another secret service breakdown. They should have said "Mr. president, we can't let you walk out into traffic and we can't let you kiss ebola nurses, now go sit down at your desk little boy and stay away from that red button thingy too. Wouldn't it be interesting if BO got sick because of this.

“I want to use myself as an example just so people have a sense of the science here. I shook hands with, hugged, and kissed, not the doctors, but a couple of the nurses at Emory because of the valiant work that they did in treating one of the patients. They followed the protocols, they knew what they were doing, and I felt perfectly safe doing so,”

Obama: ‘I Felt Perfectly Safe’ Hugging, Kissing Hospital Workers Who Took Care Of Ebola Patients « CBS DC

obama sent the secret service down 21 days in advance so they could hug and kiss the nurses to test for ebola. lol................
 
Re: Obama: ‘I Felt Perfectly Safe’ Hugging, Kissing Hospital Workers Who Took Care Of

You dont "see" anything, pharmacist-you are not a medical practitioner. You "see" what you are shown-even in your highest functioning form as a hospital pharmacist. And even a slight fever like 99.5 is cause for concern in pancytopenic/neutropenic patients. I treat onc inpatients daily. You talk about chondroitin with gramma's.

Yeah. I know.

I treated Onc inpatients daily too- without the benefit of GCSF and with some nasty chemo. Unlike you,however, instead of taking orders from physicians, they came to me for advice.
 
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Yeah. I know.

I treated Onc inpatients daily too- without the benefit of GCSF and with some nasty chemo. Unlike you,however, instead of taking orders from physicians, they came to me for advice.

I dont take orders, I give them. A physician reviews 2% of my cases a month, meaning he/she looks over what Ive done in 2% of my cases You "see" nothing, you fill prescriptions that you are given.

Lets be honest here-you aren't a practitioner and are best consulted in fairly minor issues. When I see you posing, I will call you out each and every time-this is the second instance of your claims, pharmacist.
 
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I dont take orders, I give them. A physician reviews 2% of my cases a month, meaning he/she looks over what Ive done in 2% of my cases You "see" nothing, you fill prescriptions that you are given.

Lets be honest here-you aren't a practitioner and are best consulted in fairly minor issues. When I see you posing, I will call you out each and every time-this is the second instance of your claims, pharmacist.

Just because you don't understand what clinical pharmacists do in academic clinical settings isn't my problem.

There's a reason pharmacy programs are much longer and tougher than PA programs, and that doesn't even count residencies.
 
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I believe that anyone who says that the USA has the Ebola situation totally under control is stretching the truth mighty close to the breaking point.

Anyone who keeps up with the news should know that.

It's pretty frickin' obvious.

I expect to see this on Saturday Night Live. This is great material, it's also mighty sad.

How many americans have thus far died from Ebola?
 
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