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    Re: Obama: ‘I Felt Perfectly Safe’ Hugging, Kissing Hospital Workers Who Took Care Of

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    Still masquerading as if you are a practitioner I see. Get back to me when you treat neutropenic patients.

    Oh thats right, you dont practice.
    I'm sorry. Were we talking about neutropenia? No.

    I'm pretty sure I've seen more neutropenia in my career than you. Unless you specialize in Oncology. And practiced before G-CSF, which I helped study.

    And as you might not be aware, the threshold for immunocompromised patients is lower than others.
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    Re: Obama: ‘I Felt Perfectly Safe’ Hugging, Kissing Hospital Workers Who Took Care Of

    Why is this even news?

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    Re: Obama: ‘I Felt Perfectly Safe’ Hugging, Kissing Hospital Workers Who Took Care Of

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    I'm sorry. Were we talking about neutropenia? No.

    I'm pretty sure I've seen more neutropenia in my career than you. Unless you specialize in Oncology. And practiced before G-CSF, which I helped study.

    And as you might not be aware, the threshold for immunocompromised patients is lower than others.
    You dont "see" anything, pharmacist-you are not a medical practitioner. You "see" what you are shown-even in your highest functioning form as a hospital pharmacist. And even a slight fever like 99.5 is cause for concern in pancytopenic/neutropenic patients. I treat onc inpatients daily. You talk about chondroitin with gramma's.

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    Re: Obama: ‘I Felt Perfectly Safe’ Hugging, Kissing Hospital Workers Who Took Care Of

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    While we are all quite impressed by your google skilz, 99.5 is not a fever.
    And yet he presented mere days later with a positive Ebola test...Hmmm, Imagine that.
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    Re: Obama: ‘I Felt Perfectly Safe’ Hugging, Kissing Hospital Workers Who Took Care Of

    Obama's behavior is disingenuous, and obviously so.

    He's basically executing behavior #1 yet telling us that's reason to do behavior #2, and, he knows it.

    Behavior #1 is hugging and kissing a woman who actually had Ebola and who has recovered and now has the antibodies throughout her system and has been tested and no longer has the virus in her.

    From a virological standpoint, she has got to be the safest person in the world to have close contact with regarding not catching Ebola!

    In fact, if some of her antibodies get into Obama's system as a result, he's technically better protected from the disease!

    That's behavior #1.

    So, what's behavior #2?

    Behavior #2 is "don't worry about Ebola, just listen to us about how the disease is spread, and those intelligent real concerns the great majority of you have about Ebola, that we in the administration are hesitant to do much about, if anything, like restricting those from West Africa without a quarantine and making sure hospitals are ready for walk-in Ebola patients and rounding up all those in Harlem who are now at risk because of Spencer and ignoring the evidence in West Africa that the disease can spread in air moisture droplets and ignoring WHO's recent presentation that the correct incubation period is 42 days not 21, and it's okay to kiss and hug someone who's just contracted the virus and hasn't yet shown much if any symptoms 'cause they're really no threat to you, etc.".

    Yep, completely different.

    But, that's the message this political posturing version of "baby kissing" The President just did is attempting: he's executing behavior #1 and then speaking behavior #2.

    And that is so blatantly hypocritical it's disgusting.

    So, Mr. President, you want to convey message #2 with an illustration?

    Go hug and kiss a person intimately exposed to the virus who's just beginning to show symptoms if any!

    Yeah, I'll bet even "you" won't do that to get your message across.
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    Re: Obama: ‘I Felt Perfectly Safe’ Hugging, Kissing Hospital Workers Who Took Care Of

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    This guy has the most important job in the US and he is kissing nurses that cared for an ebola patient? Yet another example of Obama's lack of intelligence and IMO another secret service breakdown. They should have said "Mr. president, we can't let you walk out into traffic and we can't let you kiss ebola nurses, now go sit down at your desk little boy and stay away from that red button thingy too. Wouldn't it be interesting if BO got sick because of this.

    “I want to use myself as an example just so people have a sense of the science here. I shook hands with, hugged, and kissed, not the doctors, but a couple of the nurses at Emory because of the valiant work that they did in treating one of the patients. They followed the protocols, they knew what they were doing, and I felt perfectly safe doing so,”

    Obama: ‘I Felt Perfectly Safe’ Hugging, Kissing Hospital Workers Who Took Care Of Ebola Patients « CBS DC
    obama sent the secret service down 21 days in advance so they could hug and kiss the nurses to test for ebola. lol................
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    Re: Obama: ‘I Felt Perfectly Safe’ Hugging, Kissing Hospital Workers Who Took Care Of

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    You dont "see" anything, pharmacist-you are not a medical practitioner. You "see" what you are shown-even in your highest functioning form as a hospital pharmacist. And even a slight fever like 99.5 is cause for concern in pancytopenic/neutropenic patients. I treat onc inpatients daily. You talk about chondroitin with gramma's.
    Yeah. I know.

    I treated Onc inpatients daily too- without the benefit of GCSF and with some nasty chemo. Unlike you,however, instead of taking orders from physicians, they came to me for advice.
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    Re: Obama: ‘I Felt Perfectly Safe’ Hugging, Kissing Hospital Workers Who Took Care Of

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Yeah. I know.

    I treated Onc inpatients daily too- without the benefit of GCSF and with some nasty chemo. Unlike you,however, instead of taking orders from physicians, they came to me for advice.
    I dont take orders, I give them. A physician reviews 2% of my cases a month, meaning he/she looks over what Ive done in 2% of my cases You "see" nothing, you fill prescriptions that you are given.

    Lets be honest here-you aren't a practitioner and are best consulted in fairly minor issues. When I see you posing, I will call you out each and every time-this is the second instance of your claims, pharmacist.

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    Re: Obama: ‘I Felt Perfectly Safe’ Hugging, Kissing Hospital Workers Who Took Care Of

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I dont take orders, I give them. A physician reviews 2% of my cases a month, meaning he/she looks over what Ive done in 2% of my cases You "see" nothing, you fill prescriptions that you are given.

    Lets be honest here-you aren't a practitioner and are best consulted in fairly minor issues. When I see you posing, I will call you out each and every time-this is the second instance of your claims, pharmacist.
    Just because you don't understand what clinical pharmacists do in academic clinical settings isn't my problem.

    There's a reason pharmacy programs are much longer and tougher than PA programs, and that doesn't even count residencies.
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    Re: Obama: ‘I Felt Perfectly Safe’ Hugging, Kissing Hospital Workers Who Took Care Of

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    I believe that anyone who says that the USA has the Ebola situation totally under control is stretching the truth mighty close to the breaking point.

    Anyone who keeps up with the news should know that.

    It's pretty frickin' obvious.

    I expect to see this on Saturday Night Live. This is great material, it's also mighty sad.
    How many americans have thus far died from Ebola?
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