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    Re: Obama: ‘I Felt Perfectly Safe’ Hugging, Kissing Hospital Workers Who Took Care Of

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    I don't take medical advice from PA's, as a rule. Substandard training, you know. I know because I've taught them.

    LOL.

    It was a medical professional who was reporting the symptoms. And again, there is no evidence she had any symptoms, or signs, of infection at the time.

    This infection is not easily transmissible, period. We had a *symptomatic* individual flying from Africa to the US, and all his plane mates are just fine. This isn't surprising or really lucky. It's kind of what you would expect.
    3G, why should ANYONE take medical advice from a pharmacist? You aren't trained in medicine-you give patients what those of us who DO have that medical background prescribe. No amount of hissing or spitting changes this.

    Think for a minute 3G-if this virus is not easily transmissible why is it spreading at an exponential rate overseas? If the disease is well managed, why did one of the nurses involved call the CDC multiple times before being told it was ok to fly, despite a fever?

    This isn't really difficult to grasp, I think even you can grasp this but your politics are preventing it-your lack of medical education may be a factor here-but its not the primary one.

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    Re: Obama: ‘I Felt Perfectly Safe’ Hugging, Kissing Hospital Workers Who Took Care Of

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    BS doesn't always baffle brains. Some understand technical terms. There's google too. Eating beetroot can cause hematochezia-like symptoms, as can a dozen other diseases. if a patient has reached that stage of the illness you misdiagnosed originally.
    If medicine was as simple as google and "understanding technical terms" robots would be doing it. Theres a reason medical training is so exhaustive and after that its STILL difficult and constantly humbling. Your hubris wont help you here.

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    Re: Obama: ‘I Felt Perfectly Safe’ Hugging, Kissing Hospital Workers Who Took Care Of

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    3G, why should ANYONE take medical advice from a pharmacist? You aren't trained in medicine-you give patients what those of us who DO have that medical background prescribe. No amount of hissing or spitting changes this.

    Think for a minute 3G-if this virus is not easily transmissible why is it spreading at an exponential rate overseas? If the disease is well managed, why did one of the nurses involved call the CDC multiple times before being told it was ok to fly, despite a fever?

    This isn't really difficult to grasp, I think even you can grasp this but your politics are preventing it-your lack of medical education may be a factor here-but its not the primary one.

    Your uptodate subscription is still up, right?
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    Actually, some of us pharmacists have pretty advanced training. And I feel fairly comfortable in infectious disease, given the amount of time I spent on a dedicated ID service, and the research work I've done in ID.

    The disease is transmissible in Africa, where preparing bodies after death by families is routine, and no precautions are taken in homes with bleeding, vomiting and diarrheal patients exist, and patients barely make it to hospitals and doctors, and when they do they are incredibly inadequate.

    In the US, we have had a single case, which transmitted it to two health care workers, who obviously did not use proper precautions for some unknown reason. In Africa, you just aren't seeing many healthcare practitioners (at least not protected ones from the West) coming down with Ebola, despite having contact with dozens of patients.

    Right now, we have a disease that is fairly easily containable, is expected to never get to epidemic proportions in the US, and has effected a total of three people, and has not been shown to be transmitted in the US outside of the health care system.

    My politics are totally irrelevant to the issue. As I mentioned before, I find it bizarre that politics are even brought up here at all. And even more bizarre that the Conservatives seem to be implying that the government needs to have MORE control and restrict freedom needlessly.
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    Re: Obama: ‘I Felt Perfectly Safe’ Hugging, Kissing Hospital Workers Who Took Care Of

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Actually, some of us pharmacists have pretty advanced training. And I feel fairly comfortable in infectious disease, given the amount of time I spent on a dedicated ID service, and the research work I've done in ID.
    Im going to ask you flat out, so as to prevent another evasive answer
    -what medical training do you have?
    -Where did you learn medicine (clinical or academic)?
    -Why should anyone take medical advice from a pharmacist?

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    Re: Obama: ‘I Felt Perfectly Safe’ Hugging, Kissing Hospital Workers Who Took Care Of

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Im going to ask you flat out, so as to prevent another evasive answer
    -what medical training do you have?
    -Where did you learn medicine (clinical or academic)?
    -Why should anyone take medical advice from a pharmacist?
    Kind of OT. Be happy to answer if you create a thread or something.
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    Re: Obama: ‘I Felt Perfectly Safe’ Hugging, Kissing Hospital Workers Who Took Care Of

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Kind of OT. Be happy to answer if you create a thread or something.
    The answer is that you are not qualified, nor trained to do so. Lets not dance around that.

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    Re: Obama: ‘I Felt Perfectly Safe’ Hugging, Kissing Hospital Workers Who Took Care Of

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    The answer is that you are not qualified, nor trained to do so. Lets not dance around that.
    In other words, you dont know, dont want to know, and will just make up the stuff you dont know in your head and go with it.

    Typical.
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    Re: Obama: ‘I Felt Perfectly Safe’ Hugging, Kissing Hospital Workers Who Took Care Of

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Im going to ask you flat out, so as to prevent another evasive answer
    -what medical training do you have?
    -Where did you learn medicine (clinical or academic)?
    -Why should anyone take medical advice from a pharmacist?
    Why should anyone take advice from you with yer posting history ?
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    Re: Obama: ‘I Felt Perfectly Safe’ Hugging, Kissing Hospital Workers Who Took Care Of

    You should save this post and give it a common-sense rightie who hasn't gone off the Abyss at the Grand Canyon.
    Though I'm glad you have it out there for me to read.

    I'm well aware that pharmacists are the most important rung on the medical food-chain.
    Especially compared to all of our foreign-born med-dispensing doctors getting kickbacks--and I have a real-life Mom who went through that.

    That's why I was successful in convincing my Chemistry students to double-Doctorate in Pharmacy and Medicine .

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Actually, some of us pharmacists have pretty advanced training. And I feel fairly comfortable in infectious disease, given the amount of time I spent on a dedicated ID service, and the research work I've done in ID.

    The disease is transmissible in Africa, where preparing bodies after death by families is routine, and no precautions are taken in homes with bleeding, vomiting and diarrheal patients exist, and patients barely make it to hospitals and doctors, and when they do they are incredibly inadequate.

    In the US, we have had a single case, which transmitted it to two health care workers, who obviously did not use proper precautions for some unknown reason. In Africa, you just aren't seeing many healthcare practitioners (at least not protected ones from the West) coming down with Ebola, despite having contact with dozens of patients.

    Right now, we have a disease that is fairly easily containable, is expected to never get to epidemic proportions in the US, and has effected a total of three people, and has not been shown to be transmitted in the US outside of the health care system.

    My politics are totally irrelevant to the issue. As I mentioned before, I find it bizarre that politics are even brought up here at all. And even more bizarre that the Conservatives seem to be implying that the government needs to have MORE control and restrict freedom needlessly.
    Physics is Phun

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    Re: Obama: ‘I Felt Perfectly Safe’ Hugging, Kissing Hospital Workers Who Took Care Of

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Why should anyone take advice from you with yer posting history ?
    What advice have I given out?

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