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Told in 2008: Obama administration ignored the CDC’s advice to prevent an Ebola outbreak
Added only 5 of 18 global health centers recommended


The Centers for Disease Control told the incoming Obama administration in 2008 that it should establish 18 regional disease detection centers around the world to adequately safeguard the U.S. from emerging health threats like Ebola, according to an agency memo.
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But six years later, as the government struggles to contain the fallout from a deadly Ebola outbreak at home and abroad, the CDC still has only 10 centers — and none of them operates in the western Africa region hardest hit by the deadly virus.

Read more: Obama administration ignored the CDC's Ebola outbreak prevention advice given in 2008 - Washington Times
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Im sure Obama will find out about this like everyone else on the morning news-but here we are, and none of the few centers that were established were even located in western africa.
 
Told in 2008: Obama administration ignored the CDC’s advice to prevent an Ebola outbreak
Added only 5 of 18 global health centers recommended


The Centers for Disease Control told the incoming Obama administration in 2008 that it should establish 18 regional disease detection centers around the world to adequately safeguard the U.S. from emerging health threats like Ebola, according to an agency memo.
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But six years later, as the government struggles to contain the fallout from a deadly Ebola outbreak at home and abroad, the CDC still has only 10 centers — and none of them operates in the western Africa region hardest hit by the deadly virus.

Read more: Obama administration ignored the CDC's Ebola outbreak prevention advice given in 2008 - Washington Times
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter

I don't know who knew what and when - obviously - but I do know that I'm not worried about getting Ebola and dying personally, but I don't think this issue is as minimal as some people would like it to be....and I think someone has some ownership of the matter but isn't taking any of the blame.
 
Im sure Obama will find out about this like everyone else on the morning news-but here we are, and none of the few centers that were established were even located in western africa.

He had more important things to do than prepare for Ebola. He had wars to wage and operations like Fast & Furious to conduct. Libya and Yemen consumed time and resources, not to mention NATO shenanigans in Ukraine.
 
After something like this there's alot of Shoulda, Woulda, Couldas, agencies approach you with all sorts of recommendations and requests and you gotta prioritize those and weigh it against the money involved and risk.

This is not a disease that had ever struck West Africa before and nobody could have predicted an outbreak like this, at no point in modern history has a Level 4 pathogen infected so many people so quickly across such a large geographical area, its simply unprecedented.
 
Bumping up your thread USC.
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The White House refused to consider the alternative, a travel ban from countries that had Ebola outbreaks. Josh Earnest told the press on October 1, after Duncan was diagnosed with the infection in Dallas, that the administration would not consider a temporary travel ban, and that the US could prevent a “wide spread of Ebola.” Earnest also promised that the Centers for Disease Control would “protect the broader American public by rigorously applying the kind of medical protocols” recommended by the CDC when the disease did appear. “These are the experts,” Earnest insisted.

Even at that stage, no one communicated the proper protocols to the hospital staff, according to a union representative for the nurses. There were “no protocols” given to the nurses by the CDC or anyone else; they had to make up protocols as they went along, with toxic medical waste piling up to the ceiling. For the first two days, they didn’t even have the proper hazmat suits needed for infectious-disease protection while caring for Duncan. Under those circumstances, the infection of two members of Duncan’s care team should not surprise anyone. The first young nurse self-identified the infection and got herself into isolation over the weekend. The CDC confirmed it as an Ebola case on Sunday morning. By that time, the CDC had been monitoring dozens of people who had come into contact with Duncan as potential cases for contagion, and yet somehow one nurse had flown to Cleveland from Dallas on Friday.

It doesn’t take “experts” to realize that high-risk potential cases of Ebola shouldn’t board flights or use any other kind of public transportation, especially after a containment breach has been verified. Only after this information came out did CDC director Thomas Frieden announce that no other people being monitored would be allowed to board commercial aircraft. The experts never considered that an issue, apparently. Even after that, the CDC asked people on the flight to contact them, rather than getting the passenger manifest from the airline and tracking down the passengers themselves. These are people who may have been exposed and who could carry the infections further over the next several weeks.....snip~

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/contain-ebola-obama-must-impose-094500403.html



Due to all this.....BO says he wants a CDC Swat Team for Immediate response and hopefully less than 24 hrs. Frieden even admitted the CDC should have sent a Team once they knew Duncan was infected. Bo would not have to be saying this.....if Freiden had been handling this situation correctly with protocols.

 
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Im sure Obama will find out about this like everyone else on the morning news-but here we are, and none of the few centers that were established were even located in western africa.

By what authority would Obama have to establish a CDC Infectious hospital in another country? Who would run it? Staff it? Fund it? Write regulations for it?

Sometime logic goes right out f-n the door in a "crisis".
 
By what authority would Obama have to establish a CDC Infectious hospital in another country? Who would run it? Staff it? Fund it? Write regulations for it?

Sometime logic goes right out f-n the door in a "crisis".



Yeah I guess it does.....how did we get them in these countries? Better yet.....why aren't people being sent to these centers from those in the infected countries.....any that survive their blood could be used to cure others.


Though the CDC operates three response centers in Africa in Kenya, Egypt and South Africa — none of those are based in the western parts of the continent that have seen major Ebola outbreaks this year.

Read more: Obama administration ignored the CDC's Ebola outbreak prevention advice given in 2008 - Washington Times
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter
 
After something like this there's alot of Shoulda, Woulda, Couldas, agencies approach you with all sorts of recommendations and requests and you gotta prioritize those and weigh it against the money involved and risk.

This is not a disease that had ever struck West Africa before and nobody could have predicted an outbreak like this, at no point in modern history has a Level 4 pathogen infected so many people so quickly across such a large geographical area, its simply unprecedented.
Bubonic plague?
 
After something like this there's alot of Shoulda, Woulda, Couldas, agencies approach you with all sorts of recommendations and requests and you gotta prioritize those and weigh it against the money involved and risk.

This is not a disease that had ever struck West Africa before and nobody could have predicted an outbreak like this, at no point in modern history has a Level 4 pathogen infected so many people so quickly across such a large geographical area, its simply unprecedented.

Pandemic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The "Hong Kong Flu", 1968–69. An H3N2 caused about 34,000 deaths in the United States. This virus was first detected in Hong Kong in early 1968, and spread to the United States later that year. This pandemic of 1968 and 1969 killed approximately one million people worldwide[citation needed]. Influenza A (H3N2) viruses still circulate today.

During the 20th century, it is estimated that smallpox was responsible for 300–500 million deaths

During the 20th century, tuberculosis killed approximately 100 million people.[
 
Alrighty now......don't any worry. BO has stayed in Washington today and didn't go to the fundraisers he had planned for the second day in a row.
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BO and his Team are on the J.O.B.
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Gonna monitor this Ebola......down in Dallas and Ohio from there in DC.
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Will have a CDC Swat Team ready to go.....(don't mind the sidearm people, Fed Employee doncha know.
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US steps up response as Ebola worries grow.....

President Barack Obama directed his administration to respond in a "much more aggressive way" to oversee the Dallas cases and ensure the lessons learned there are transmitted to hospitals and clinics across the country. For the second day in a row he canceled out-of-town trips Thursday to stay in Washington and monitor the Ebola response.

Federal health officials who say they know how to shut down the disease within the U.S. were being called to testify in what was looming as a combative hearing by a House oversight panel on Capitol Hill. He said two Ebola vaccine candidates were undergoing a first phase of human clinical testing this fall. But he cautioned that scientists were still in the early stages of understanding how Ebola infection can be treated and prevented. Amid increasing anxiety over Ebola, Customs and health officials at airports in Chicago, Atlanta, the Washington suburbs and Newark, New Jersey, were scheduled Thursday to start taking the temperatures of passengers from the three hardest-hit West African countries Thursday. The screenings, using no-touch thermometers, started Saturday at New York's Kennedy International Airport.....snip~

US health officials defend Ebola response
 
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The White House refused to consider the alternative, a travel ban from countries that had Ebola outbreaks. Josh Earnest told the press on October 1, after Duncan was diagnosed with the infection in Dallas, that the administration would not consider a temporary travel ban, and that the US could prevent a “wide spread of Ebola.” Earnest also promised that the Centers for Disease Control would “protect the broader American public by rigorously applying the kind of medical protocols” recommended by the CDC when the disease did appear. “These are the experts,” Earnest insisted.

Even at that stage, no one communicated the proper protocols to the hospital staff, according to a union representative for the nurses. There were “no protocols” given to the nurses by the CDC or anyone else; they had to make up protocols as they went along, with toxic medical waste piling up to the ceiling. For the first two days, they didn’t even have the proper hazmat suits needed for infectious-disease protection while caring for Duncan. Under those circumstances, the infection of two members of Duncan’s care team should not surprise anyone. The first young nurse self-identified the infection and got herself into isolation over the weekend. The CDC confirmed it as an Ebola case on Sunday morning. By that time, the CDC had been monitoring dozens of people who had come into contact with Duncan as potential cases for contagion, and yet somehow one nurse had flown to Cleveland from Dallas on Friday.

It doesn’t take “experts” to realize that high-risk potential cases of Ebola shouldn’t board flights or use any other kind of public transportation, especially after a containment breach has been verified. Only after this information came out did CDC director Thomas Frieden announce that no other people being monitored would be allowed to board commercial aircraft. The experts never considered that an issue, apparently. Even after that, the CDC asked people on the flight to contact them, rather than getting the passenger manifest from the airline and tracking down the passengers themselves. These are people who may have been exposed and who could carry the infections further over the next several weeks.....snip~

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/contain-ebola-obama-must-impose-094500403.html



Due to all this.....BO says he wants a CDC Swat Team for Immediate response and hopefully less than 24 hrs. Frieden even admitted the CDC should have sent a Team once they knew Duncan was infected. Bo would not have to be saying this.....if Freiden had been handling this situation correctly with protocols.



This is why they should control our Health care
 
By what authority would Obama have to establish a CDC Infectious hospital in another country? Who would run it? Staff it? Fund it? Write regulations for it?

Sometime logic goes right out f-n the door in a "crisis".

Who sent the Army to Liberia?
 
After something like this there's alot of Shoulda, Woulda, Couldas, agencies approach you with all sorts of recommendations and requests and you gotta prioritize those and weigh it against the money involved and risk.

This is not a disease that had ever struck West Africa before and nobody could have predicted an outbreak like this, at no point in modern history has a Level 4 pathogen infected so many people so quickly across such a large geographical area, its simply unprecedented.

There was an outbreak in 74. What do you mean nobody knew?
 
I don't know who knew what and when - obviously - but I do know that I'm not worried about getting Ebola and dying personally, but I don't think this issue is as minimal as some people would like it to be....and I think someone has some ownership of the matter but isn't taking any of the blame.

Let's call this a dry run for a real global epidemic event. CDC gets an F-
 
Who sent the Army to Liberia?

Heya Apdst. :2wave: What I was wondering about is......why would they send the 101st? I can see Combat engineers and Army Corp and Medics.....but not an Elite Fighting Unit.
 
After something like this there's alot of Shoulda, Woulda, Couldas, agencies approach you with all sorts of recommendations and requests and you gotta prioritize those and weigh it against the money involved and risk.

This is not a disease that had ever struck West Africa before and nobody could have predicted an outbreak like this, at no point in modern history has a Level 4 pathogen infected so many people so quickly across such a large geographical area, its simply unprecedented.

Kind of like Katrina.
 
Pandemic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The "Hong Kong Flu", 1968–69. An H3N2 caused about 34,000 deaths in the United States. This virus was first detected in Hong Kong in early 1968, and spread to the United States later that year. This pandemic of 1968 and 1969 killed approximately one million people worldwide[citation needed]. Influenza A (H3N2) viruses still circulate today.

During the 20th century, it is estimated that smallpox was responsible for 300–500 million deaths

During the 20th century, tuberculosis killed approximately 100 million people.[

There is also the flu epidemic in the US in the early 20's and the polio epidemic in the 40's. Jet's claim that epidemics are unprecedented is false.

Government generally reactive, not proactive. It's impossible to anticipate all future problems, but once problem is identified, swift action is needed. I haven't seen that happening here, or in the enterovirus situation, which has caused more deaths than ebola. In the case of ebola, the focus has been assuring the public there is no problem rather than fixing the problem. We were told that the virus could not leave Africa and arrive in the US. When it did, we were told that it could be contained in the safe medical center centers. When medical personnell were infected, we were told that these were isolated cases and no one else could possibly be infected. Now like it or not, there are several thousand potentially infected people running around. Patients are being moved from those safe medical centers to other presumably safer medical centers. IMO any move potentially infects others.

And still the planes are flying. No effort has been made to limit travel to and from infected areas. The kids that are coming from southern countries are not only being allowed to continue coming, and in fact are being transported all over the US. Those southern borders are just as likely to allow ebola as to allow entirovirus.

As of now, the focus is on CYA rather than FIX. IMO, that has to stop.
 
There is also the flu epidemic in the US in the early 20's and the polio epidemic in the 40's. Jet's claim that epidemics are unprecedented is false.

Government generally reactive, not proactive. It's impossible to anticipate all future problems, but once problem is identified, swift action is needed. I haven't seen that happening here, or in the enterovirus situation, which has caused more deaths than ebola. In the case of ebola, the focus has been assuring the public there is no problem rather than fixing the problem. We were told that the virus could not leave Africa and arrive in the US. When it did, we were told that it could be contained in the safe medical center centers. When medical personnell were infected, we were told that these were isolated cases and no one else could possibly be infected. Now like it or not, there are several thousand potentially infected people running around. Patients are being moved from those safe medical centers to other presumably safer medical centers. IMO any move potentially infects others.

And still the planes are flying. No effort has been made to limit travel to and from infected areas. The kids that are coming from southern countries are not only being allowed to continue coming, and in fact are being transported all over the US. Those southern borders are just as likely to allow ebola as to allow entirovirus.

As of now, the focus is on CYA rather than FIX. IMO, that has to stop.

Quarantine is not straight foward. This is a paper on the subject.

Quarantine remains an important part of the strategy for containing infectious diseases, especially when there is no vaccine or effective treatment. Recent experiences with SARS and Ebola indicate that large-scale quarantine is fraught with ethical challenges. In the United States, legislation authorizing quarantine has been enacted in every state, and these laws have been upheld by the Supreme Court. The following ethical principles should guide public health officials in deciding whether and how to impose a quarantine: (1) necessity, effectiveness, and scientific rationale; (2) proportionality and least infringement; (3) humane supportive services; and (4) public justification.

From SARS to Ebola: Legal and Ethical Considerations for Modern Quarantine by Mark A. Rothstein :: SSRN
 
There is also the flu epidemic in the US in the early 20's and the polio epidemic in the 40's. Jet's claim that epidemics are unprecedented is false.

Government generally reactive, not proactive. It's impossible to anticipate all future problems, but once problem is identified, swift action is needed. I haven't seen that happening here, or in the enterovirus situation, which has caused more deaths than ebola. In the case of ebola, the focus has been assuring the public there is no problem rather than fixing the problem. We were told that the virus could not leave Africa and arrive in the US. When it did, we were told that it could be contained in the safe medical center centers. When medical personnell were infected, we were told that these were isolated cases and no one else could possibly be infected. Now like it or not, there are several thousand potentially infected people running around. Patients are being moved from those safe medical centers to other presumably safer medical centers. IMO any move potentially infects others.

And still the planes are flying. No effort has been made to limit travel to and from infected areas. The kids that are coming from southern countries are not only being allowed to continue coming, and in fact are being transported all over the US. Those southern borders are just as likely to allow ebola as to allow entirovirus.

As of now, the focus is on CYA rather than FIX. IMO, that has to stop.

Perhaps the greatest challenge of all isn't the lack of protocols, isn't the lack of foresight, and isn't the lack of a viable plan. The greatest challenge of all is the attitude of the people at the basic levels who are entrusted with carrying out what ever plans are finally arrived at.

For example, how is it possible for someone answering the phone at the CDC to tell the nurse planning to travel on an airplane, who had contact with an Ebola patient, and has a low grade fever, to tell the nurse it's ok to go ahead and board the plane? This is the ultimate, fair or unfair, in cubicle mentality. I doubt this will ever change.

When someone suggests they know what they are doing, but then claims mistakes keep being made, it's obvious they don't know what they are doing. To claim otherwise ignores the fact all the mistakes are being made.

Shut down travel from these infected nations.
 
Perhaps the greatest challenge of all, isn't the lack of protocols, isn't the lack of foresight, and isn't the lack of a viable plan. The greatest challenge is the attitude of the people at the basic levels who are entrusted with carrying out what ever plans are finally arrived at.

For example, how is it possible for someone answering the phone at the CDC to tell the nurse planning to travel on an airplane, who had contact with an Ebola patient, and has a low grade fever, to tell the nurse it's ok to go ahead and board the plane? This is the ultimate, fair or unfair, in cubicle mentality. I doubt this will ever change.

When someone suggests they know what they are doing, but then claims mistakes keep being made, it's obvious they don't know what they are doing. To claim otherwise ignores the fact all the mistakes are being made.

Shut down travel from these infected nations.

The economic consequences of shuting down the ability of the west African to conduct trade and travel would cause more harm then good.
 
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