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    Re: Jeb Bush: Wife and Mother More Supportive of Potential Run

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    That's possible. We will just have to wait and see. But the Democrats have had a history of nominating someone with the best chances to win whereas the Republicans have been more ideological in their choice. This goes for not only the presidency, but the senate as well. We seen what happens when an Aiken, Mourdock, Angle etc. get nominated. They lose.
    They get nominated because the koch brother funded tea party factions putting all those green-backs towards the most party purified ideological candidates. It's the insane $'s flooding into politics that's doing the damage. You see it on the rightwing what you are saying and it's so bad that the right wing lobby group US Chamber of Commerce is funding more centrist republican candidates to do battle with the koch brother funded tea party candidates.
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    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Jeb Bush: Wife and Mother More Supportive of Potential Run

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    Nope. I voted and cancelled yours.
    Good thing cancellation works both ways. Thing is Im politically active and likely cancelled a few of your buddies as well. You are welcome.

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    Re: Jeb Bush: Wife and Mother More Supportive of Potential Run

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    Good thing cancellation works both ways. Thing is Im politically active and likely cancelled a few of your buddies as well. You are welcome.
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    Re: Jeb Bush: Wife and Mother More Supportive of Potential Run

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    They get nominated because the koch brother funded tea party factions putting all those green-backs towards the most party purified ideological candidates. It's the insane $'s flooding into politics that's doing the damage. You see it on the rightwing what you are saying and it's so bad that the right wing lobby group US Chamber of Commerce is funding more centrist republican candidates to do battle with the koch brother funded tea party candidates.
    While I agree the money in politics is insane, it is not just the Koch brothers. It is the tens and hundreds of millions that come into the coffers of both sides. Koch may fund tea party types, but that tends to be to the detriment of the Republican Party as a whole. Now the Republicans will say the same about Soros. As a Reform Party member I find it amusing that the Democrats will condemn Koch but laud Soros and the opposite is true for the Republicans, they condemn Soros while lauding Koch. I suppose that is the way partisan politics is and the way partisans look at things.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Jeb Bush: Wife and Mother More Supportive of Potential Run

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    While I agree the money in politics is insane, it is not just the Koch brothers. It is the tens and hundreds of millions that come into the coffers of both sides. Koch may fund tea party types, but that tends to be to the detriment of the Republican Party as a whole. Now the Republicans will say the same about Soros. As a Reform Party member I find it amusing that the Democrats will condemn Koch but laud Soros and the opposite is true for the Republicans, they condemn Soros while lauding Koch. I suppose that is the way partisan politics is and the way partisans look at things.
    True but the dollar amounts and influence amounts aren't even close to one another. Soros is mostly a guy throwing big bucks into the game. Kochs are an almost infinite group of networks. Just to name a few...

    ALEC
    Tea Party Express (among many other tea party orgs)
    Freedom Partners
    Founded the Cato Institute
    Financially fund Heritage Foundation
    Financially fund American Enterprise Institute
    The Federalist Society


    The list goes on and on and on. They fund things up front and then filter other funding through their zillion front groups.

    ALEC being the grossest of them all being that it is a lobby group that politicians are members of. I think it's a bit of a conflict of interest to be a a politician whose a member of the lobbying group that lobby's you then writing the legislation for you that you then submit into the legislative process.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Jeb Bush: Wife and Mother More Supportive of Potential Run

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    True but the dollar amounts and influence amounts aren't even close to one another. Soros is mostly a guy throwing big bucks into the game. Kochs are an almost infinite group of networks. Just to name a few...

    ALEC
    Tea Party Express (among many other tea party orgs)
    Freedom Partners
    Founded the Cato Institute
    Financially fund Heritage Foundation
    Financially fund American Enterprise Institute
    The Federalist Society


    The list goes on and on and on. They fund things up front and then filter other funding through their zillion front groups.

    ALEC being the grossest of them all being that it is a lobby group that politicians are members of. I think it's a bit of a conflict of interest to be a a politician whose a member of the lobbying group that lobby's you then writing the legislation for you that you then submit into the legislative process.
    All I know is last presidential election both sides spent a billion dollars each.

    The 2012 Money Race: Compare the Candidates - NYTimes.com

    In 2008 the numbers was 750 million for Obama and 368 million for McCain.

    Final Fundraising Figure: Obama's $750M - ABC News

    Neither side is hurting as far as the money goes.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Jeb Bush: Wife and Mother More Supportive of Potential Run

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    All I know is last presidential election both sides spent a billion dollars each.

    The 2012 Money Race: Compare the Candidates - NYTimes.com

    In 2008 the numbers was 750 million for Obama and 368 million for McCain.

    Final Fundraising Figure: Obama's $750M - ABC News

    Neither side is hurting as far as the money goes.
    Prez funding is a peculiar thing. It will always be a blowout for one side being that they are usually rather even for the longest time and when and only when the die is cast and it's rather obvious whose going to win, all these wall streeters, who were funding one way or the other or usually both to hedge their bets, start funneling money hard to the one they are sure will win. This is the ultimate hedge to own the winning candidate and for them to say, "see we supported you... you owe us." Watch the October funding of prez elections vs prior to then.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Jeb Bush: Wife and Mother More Supportive of Potential Run

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Who's going to beat Hillary Clinton? Fill us in.
    i think jeb could defeat hillary if he had a well run campaign
    and ditto for condi, whose chances, i believe, exceed jeb's
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    Re: Jeb Bush: Wife and Mother More Supportive of Potential Run

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Prez funding is a peculiar thing. It will always be a blowout for one side being that they are usually rather even for the longest time and when and only when the die is cast and it's rather obvious whose going to win, all these wall streeters, who were funding one way or the other or usually both to hedge their bets, start funneling money hard to the one they are sure will win. This is the ultimate hedge to own the winning candidate and for them to say, "see we supported you... you owe us." Watch the October funding of prez elections vs prior to then.
    I noticed that, corporations and Wall Street Firms donating to both candidates and parties. It certainly isn't out of any civic duty, you have it right. Corporations and Wall Street Firms want who ever is elected to owe them. This goes for the senate and congress too. It all boils down to the having the best government money can buy.

    I use to have a chart on corporations giving, but lost it when my computer crashed. It showed from 2000-2006 Corporations gave lots more money to Republicans. From 2006-2010 they gave most of their money to Democrats and in 2010 that switched back. The reason why was which ever party had the most incumbents, they donated to the incumbents. They usually win. It is your owe me type syndrome that these corporations and Wall Street firms want.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Jeb Bush: Wife and Mother More Supportive of Potential Run

    Debating whether Jeb Bush should be the GOP candidate is like debating whether a quarterback with a QB rating of 75 should start in the Super Bowl.

    If that is the best you have, you are probably f@cked.

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