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SECOND Dallas Hospital Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

donsutherland1 said:
I don't have issues with reporting on the situation. But the reporting should stick strictly with the facts and avoid speculation. At the same time, media stories should provide key information e.g., on how the virus is spread, because many Americans don't know that it is not transmitted airborne unlike, for example, influenza. Hence, many assume that the 132 passengers and flight crew are at genuine risk of contracting Ebola. In fact, the risk is probably extremely to very low given how the virus is spread. Additional cases are more likely among the health care workers who treated the Ebola patient in Dallas given the initial lack of adequate equipment and training to deal with such cases.
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You may be right, however in your previous post it said the virus can exist on material which means if she sneezed or spit saliva on or around her plane seat, the next person sitting in that seat can get infected, but they are not looking at that.
 
MMC said:
Heya Lady P :2wave: .....truthfully he had no choice. When the CDC Director is saying he is hearing from Hospitals and medical people all across the country that they are not prepared nor trained. Especially after the CDC asked people to call them that were on that flight with Vinson. As the CDC could have used the manifest and got to all of those people.....johnny on the spot. Then BO has to show some leadership. Like you said.....its his Team.
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If he is inept, even though he is a doctor, then he should be replaced. It's just that the whole handling of this thing, from the very beginning, doesn't feel right to me - gut-feeling wise! :shrug:
 
j-mac said:
And could in the end cost someone their life. Why wouldn't we do all we can to prevent that, including measures like restricting travel?
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Part of the problem is that the U.S. almost certainly had no strategy for dealing with Ebola's arrival in the U.S. A series of reactive measures in a bid to catch up with events is not a substitute for strategy.

That the U.S. has not always handled outbreaks very effectively in the past e.g., the 1976 Swine Flu scare, made it even more imperative that the U.S. develop a plan that would outline among other things the messaging to minimize the risk of panic, emphasis on communicating only facts and on a regular basis, establish an approach for dealing with any cases that might emerge in the U.S. (higher risk than in the past due to the global nature of transportation), identify people responsible for overseeing key tasks tied to that national strategy, establishing a mechanism to identify and correct emergent problems, and creating a small body to lay out scenarios (including a worst-case one where Ebola takes hold in the U.S. and an epidemic spreads at a rate similar to what was happening in Africa, even as such an outcome would be a low probability scenario) and draft contingency plans to deal with those scenarios, etc.

There was plenty of time to develop a coordinated national response plan. The 2014 outbreak was first reported by the World Health Organization on March 23, when the WHO revealed:

The Ministry of Health (MoH) of Guinea has notified WHO of a rapidly evolving outbreak of Ebola virus disease (EVD) in forested areas of south-eastern Guinea. As of 22 March 2014, a total of 49 cases including 29 deaths (case fatality ratio: 59%) had been reported.

On July 1, the WHO reported:

As of 30 June 2014, the cumulative number of cases attributed to EVD in the three countries stands at 759, including 467 deaths. The distribution and classification of the cases are as follows: Guinea, 413 cases (293 confirmed, 88 probable, and 32 suspected) and 303 deaths (193 confirmed, 82 probable, and 28 suspected); Liberia, 107 cases (52 confirmed, 21 probable, and 34 suspected) and 65 deaths (33 confirmed, 17 probable, and 15 suspected); and Sierra Leone, 239 cases (199 confirmed, 31 probable, and 9 suspected) and 99 deaths (65 confirmed, 29 probable, and 5 suspected).

In short, the absence of a national strategy was far more a leadership issue than a time or resource matter. In the context of the current political races, while I don't think candidates should stir panic, I do think it is fair to raise the question as to why the nation was caught by surprise and didn't have a response plan for the event that Ebola reached the U.S.
 
Mason66 said:
You may be right, however in your previous post it said the virus can exist on material which means if she sneezed or spit saliva on or around her plane seat, the next person sitting in that seat can get infected, but they are not looking at that.
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Given what's known about the transmission of Ebola, a more accurate media portrayal would have been that a tiny number of passengers or flight crew members might be at risk.
 
donsutherland1 said:
Apparently, there are now reports that she contacted CDC with concerns about her fever, but it fell below the threshold for high risk.

CDC: Ebola Patient Traveled By Air With “Low-Grade” Fever « CBS Dallas / Fort Worth

Right now, there remains no reason for panic. But work remains to be done to ensure that the risk of such a situation is minimized and the need for such work likely extends to the CDC, if this news report is accurate.
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Nurse: "I took care of the Ebola guy who died and now I'm sick. Can i fly on a plane?"
CDC: "It's fine"

Oh yeah...i feel real safe!
 
MMC said:
Mornin DS. :2wave: The reports out this morning, are the CDC gave her the go ahead. How long before you think BO fires Freiden?
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I think he won't be canned until after the political massacre in November.
 
There was no protocol in place!


Nurses at Texas hospital: 'There were no protocols' about Ebola

Texas nurses: 'There were no protocols' about Ebola - CNN.com


I believe them.
That's why Duncan was sent home, and the information about him coming from Liberia didn't get any traction.
The second time he went to the hospital, he was sitting in ER for several hours. They didn't know what to do!
 
Since righties are blaming President Ebola, did the Texas hospital purposely drop the ball from the beginning on Governor Perry's orders?

We now know the October surprises--but never a surprise to me as I've posted for months.

The GOP is far more of a clear and present danger to this Nation than any issue we face today.

Except they don't care about the Health of our Iraqi Veterans and the
Death of thousands of soldiers last decade and the maiming of tens of thousands more .
 
US Conservative said:
Yes!!!!!!!!!!!! Did you miss the dems trying to pass the blame on the sequester this week?

The left is really that pathetic-and desperate
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I dont want to cause a panic but i heard that people who die from ebola come back as zombies!
 
truthatallcost said:
Ebola isn't the only case of a left wing administration failing to protect the American people from disease. Enterovirus D68 has killed dozens of American children and Obama remains silent about why this is happening now. Many experts feel that D68 is a result of the border children who surged across the border this year, and in fact the virus is heavily found in Honduras and Guatamala.

D68 has killed American children and left others permanently paralyzed... it's clear that the left will do nothing to EVER protect the American people, including small children, from the threat of foreign illnesses.
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D68 was rare here and its arrival coincides with the arrival of these kids from latin America (where the disease is known to be indemic).

Make no mistake-if this administration has to choose between keeping Americans safe and votes-it will pick votes every time-as it has done.
 
polgara said:
If he is inept, even though he is a doctor, then he should be replaced. It's just that the whole handling of this thing, from the very beginning, doesn't feel right to me - gut-feeling wise! :shrug:
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Incompetence and education (MD) are not mutually exclusive-and I'd argue someone in his position should receive more scrutiny, and less should be tolerated. If he can't handle it, he needs to go.
 
j-mac said:
We can suspend travel from west Africa to here and further we can suspend travel domestically for those who hsve treated known cases of Ebola here until those individuals are cleared.
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Right, and as a result, we should suspend travel in and out of Texas.
 
US Conservative said:
No need to do it here, we need to do it there. And here-anyone exposed should be quarantined for a period.
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Uh, nohhhhh... If the conservatives want travel restrictions, then we have to go travel restrictions - right? Quarantine Texas.
 
EnigmaO01 said:
I not only saw the link posted here but responded to it it.

Do you realize how absurd your argument is? We were told that we had to invade Iraq because Saddam had wmds. Could result in a big atomic mushroom cloud I seem to remember Dick Cheney saying. But the truth is there was no nuclear threat and the irony is our troops wouldn't have been exposed to the degraded chemical munitions if they hadn't been there.
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The denial (of truth) is very strong in this one. Yes.
 
US Conservative said:
Reductio ad absurdum.
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Nohhhh; conservative thinking. Shoe's on the other foot now. So - will there be consistency? Or was that all just blather because it was another country?

Who knows how many people in Cleveland came in contact with the second nurse while she was there... If a travel restriction had been in place that wouldn't be a concern now would it.
 
jet57 said:
Nohhhh; conservative thinking. Shoe's on the other foot now. So - will there be consistency? Or was that all just blather because it was another country?

Who knows how many people in Cleveland came in contact with the second nurse while she was there... If a travel restriction had been in place that wouldn't be a concern now would it.
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You aren't comparing apples to apples so consistency is immaterial. Beyond that, we should look out for our interests.

**** your notions of fairness.
 
US Conservative said:
You aren't comparing apples to apples so consistency is immaterial. Beyond that, we should look out for our interests.

**** your notions of fairness.
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I never said anything about being fair - I spoke of consistency in demand... Seems Ebola has hit the heart of conservatism in America, so how about some consistency. Suspending travel in and out of Texas would be consistent with conservatice demands.
 
jet57 said:
I never said anything about being fair - I spoke of consistency in demand... Seems Ebola has hit the heart of conservatism in America, so how about some consistency. Suspending travel in and out of Texas would be consistent with conservatice demands.
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Your perspective will make sense when Ebola in Texas reaches the stage where it is likely that people coming from Texas have been exposed to Ebola.

Shill-for-Ebama, Get back to us when we reach that point.
 
MMC said:
Well as soon as people started to panic.....The First private Citizen to throw money in was a lefty. Mark Zuckerberg donated 25 mil and he wanted it for Medical equipment and resources for those at the source of the infected Countries.

Have to give him credit for that.....Just sayin!
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I respect him for doing that, at least he's trying to be proactive instead of sitting on his thumbs like Obama.
 
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