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    Re: SECOND Dallas Hospital Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    All travel in and out of Texas should be suspended: if Africa won't do it WE can.
    We can suspend travel from west Africa to here and further we can suspend travel domestically for those who hsve treated known cases of Ebola here until those individuals are cleared.
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    Re: SECOND Dallas Hospital Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    This is from 49 minutes ago. This woman has worsened and has now been sent to Atlanta. Oh and look they are asking people who were on the plane to call Dallas. This is not good. They best have had some cameras at the airport.


    Second Dallas nurse with Ebola was on Frontier Airlines Flight 1143.....


    Vinson’s condition has worsened and she will be flown to a biocontainment unit at Emory University Hospital in Atlanta, federal officials said during a Wednesday news conference. CDC director Dr. Tom Frieden said Vinson, who was in Ohio to plan her wedding, was not experiencing symptoms at the time of her flight, but “should not have traveled” on her return flight to Texas after learning in Ohio that she was a potential infection risk.

    The CDC asks that all 132 passengers on Monday’s Frontier Airlines flight 1143 from Cleveland to Dallas-Fort Worth call 1-800-CDC-INFO. The flight landed at 8:16 p.m. CT Monday. Going forward, Frieden said, no one else involved in Duncan's care will be allowed to travel “other than in a controlled environment.” The White House conceded on Wednesday that there have been “shortcomings” in the response to the Dallas Ebola crisis. "It's not clear what protocols were in place and how those protocols were implemented," White House spokesman Josh Earnest said during a news conference......snip~

    Second Dallas nurse with Ebola was on Frontier Airlines Flight 1143

    This thing is spreading easier than what they claim. And all this crap about how much better our quarantine protocols are than Africa's and higher standard of care is nonsense on those levels. The reason being that once something like this really hits the wild, it spreads faster and faster over running the system. Hospitals don't have the extra capacity to handle thousands of people with a virulent virus epidemic. They wouldn't have enough hazmat suits or facility of care, with much of the staff's getting sick.

    They need to stop the arrogant nonchalant attitude and telling people stupid stats about how more people die from different ways, and get this under control now with maximum effort. I've been saying this from the beginning, because I know what this will do to the social climate and disruption of everyday life and economic system if it gets out of control.
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    Re: SECOND Dallas Hospital Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    There is no way he can stay.....he admitted that the CDC should have sent a response Team to Dallas after they found out Duncan had become infected. He was Right....what he didn't explain. Is why they didn't? You need to read what the Dallas Nurses reported. Which Freiden knew but wasn't saying anything.

    Then he came back with that.....now he was thinking of sending any infected to one of the 4 Hospitals that can deal with this from arrival.

    What about the Former head of the CDC? I seen that CNN was propping up Sanjay Gupta again.
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    And this is how a right wing partisan hack jumps on the lets blame the left for everything wagon.
    Ebola isn't the only case of a left wing administration failing to protect the American people from disease. Enterovirus D68 has killed dozens of American children and Obama remains silent about why this is happening now. Many experts feel that D68 is a result of the border children who surged across the border this year, and in fact the virus is heavily found in Honduras and Guatamala.

    D68 has killed American children and left others permanently paralyzed... it's clear that the left will do nothing to EVER protect the American people, including small children, from the threat of foreign illnesses.

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    Re: SECOND Dallas Hospital Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    This thing is spreading easier than what they claim. And all this crap about how much better our quarantine protocols are than Africa's and higher standard of care is nonsense on those levels. The reason being that once something like this really hits the wild, it spreads faster and faster over running the system. Hospitals don't have the extra capacity to handle thousands of people with a virulent virus epidemic. They wouldn't have enough hazmat suits or facility of care, with much of the staff's getting sick.

    They need to stop the arrogant nonchalant attitude and telling people stupid stats about how more people die from different ways, and get this under control now with maximum effort. I've been saying this from the beginning, because I know what this will do to the social climate and disruption of everyday life and economic system if it gets out of control.


    More here Grip.

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    Re: SECOND Dallas Hospital Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    The fact is that this nurse called the CDC before she boarded the flight, and someone told her she wss clear to fly.

    Does that sound prudent to you?
    No. Of course, I also don't think she should even have considered traveling with even a mild fever. Whomever cleared her to travel made a bad decision. Her choosing to travel while having become symptomatic was also a bad judgment on her part.

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    Re: SECOND Dallas Hospital Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    No. Of course, I also don't think she should even have considered traveling with even a mild fever. Whomever cleared her to travel made a bad decision. Her choosing to travel while having become symptomatic was also a bad judgment on her part.
    And could in the end cost someone their life. Why wouldn't we do all we can to prevent that, including measures like restricting travel?
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    Re: SECOND Dallas Hospital Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    I disagree Lady P.....he is the Head of the CDC. He should have been on top of things from the get go. Starting with sending a Team to Dallas ASAP. Issuning no travel protocols to those working with anyone infected until they cleared.
    There do seem to be conflicts in determining what should have been done that wasn't - protocol-wise - and I do question why. However, the nurses that are speaking out have said there weren't any protocol guidelines issued. If that is true, it's a serious accusation. Then we read that there is a shortage of the correct safety apparel to be worn by nurses when dealing with a killer like Ebola, and that is also serious. Then we read that someone at the CDC okayed Vinson to fly to Cleveland even though she had a temperature, and that's serious. All of these things point back to Friedman at the CDC.

    My question is why these occurred. Was the CDC simply following Obama's lead in not treating this as seriously as it should have been? Obama himself just yesterday cancelled a fundraising trip, and we know how he enjoys those, so why did he cancel? Prior to this, we were being told that everything was under control, but now it appears that it isn't! It was serious enough that we sent military healthcare personnel to West Africa a few weeks ago - what changed the thinking? Something is not right here when the WHO, whose job it is to track epidemics, has repeatedly warned about a possible worldwide outbreak of Ebola if it isn't quarantined at the source! Why were those warnings not heeded by those in DC that have the responsibility to keep us as safe as possible?

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    Re: SECOND Dallas Hospital Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by truthatallcost View Post
    Ebola isn't the only case of a left wing administration failing to protect the American people from disease. Enterovirus D68 has killed dozens of American children and Obama remains silent about why this is happening now. Many experts feel that D68 is a result of the border children who surged across the border this year, and in fact the virus is heavily found in Honduras and Guatamala.

    D68 has killed American children and left others permanently paralyzed... it's clear that the left will do nothing to EVER protect the American people, including small children, from the threat of foreign illnesses.

    Well as soon as people started to panic.....The First private Citizen to throw money in was a lefty. Mark Zuckerberg donated 25 mil and he wanted it for Medical equipment and resources for those at the source of the infected Countries.

    Have to give him credit for that.....Just sayin!

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    Re: SECOND Dallas Hospital Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    There do seem to be conflicts in determining what should have been done that wasn't - protocol-wise - and I do question why. However, the nurses that are speaking out have said there weren't any protocol guidelines issued. If that is true, it's a serious accusation. Then we read that there is a shortage of the correct safety apparel to be worn by nurses when dealing with a killer like Ebola, and that is also serious. Then we read that someone at the CDC okayed Vinson to fly to Cleveland even though she had a temperature, and that's serious. All of these things point back to Friedman at the CDC.

    My question is why these occurred. Was the CDC simply following Obama's lead in not treating this as seriously as it should have been? Obama himself just yesterday cancelled a fundraising trip, and we know how he enjoys those, so why did he cancel? Prior to this, we were being told that everything was under control, but now it appears that it isn't! It was serious enough that we sent military healthcare personnel to West Africa a few weeks ago - what changed the thinking? Something is not right here when the WHO, whose job it is to track epidemics, has repeatedly warned about a possible worldwide outbreak of Ebola if it isn't quarantined at the source! Why were those warnings not heeded by those in DC that have the responsibility to keep us as safe as possible?

    Heya Lady P .....truthfully he had no choice. When the CDC Director is saying he is hearing from Hospitals and medical people all across the country that they are not prepared nor trained. Especially after the CDC asked people to call them that were on that flight with Vinson. As the CDC could have used the manifest and got to all of those people.....johnny on the spot. Then BO has to show some leadership. Like you said.....its his Team.

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    Re: SECOND Dallas Hospital Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I'm not worried. There is one death, and there may be as many as several more before it's over....... Which pales in comparison to......

    Heart Disease 616,067
    Cancer 562,875
    Stroke 135,952
    Chronic lower respiratory disease 127,924
    Accidents (Unintentional Injuries) 123,706
    Alzheimer’s Disease 74,632
    Diabetes 71,382
    Influenza and Pneumonia 52,717
    Nephritis, Nephrotic Syndrome, Nephrosis 46,448
    Septicemia 34,828
    Suicide 34,598
    Chronic Liver Disease 29,165
    Hypertension 23,965
    Parkinson’s Disease 20,058
    Assault (Homicide) 18,361
    All Other Causes 451,034
    Total Annual U.S. Deaths 2,423,712
    Why don't you list how many people died from AIDS from about 1985 - 1987 and that is about where we are now with this one.

    No medicine to treat it and if an epidemic breaks out, a lot of people are going to die.

    Compare apples to apples if you are going to make a comparison.

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