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    Re: SECOND Dallas Hospital Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by northwinds View Post
    Agreed........and Duncan's family has the audacity to cry 'racism' over his $500,,000 in 'free medical care after flying in in a visitors visa with Ebola.......unbelievable
    Hmmmm, they sound pretty Americanized to me.
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    Re: SECOND Dallas Hospital Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    On the bright side I would think most people tune out what Obama says these days anyway.

    I mean how many "Let Me Be Clear"s can we take?
    Obama is presiding by the seat of his pants, he's doesn't have a clue.
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    Re: SECOND Dallas Hospital Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    The following article puts things into perspective with respect to Ebola while discussing the risk of panic. From The New York Times:

    Experts who study public psychology say the next few weeks will be crucial to containing mounting anxiety. “Officials will have to be very, very careful,” said Paul Slovic, president of Decision Research, a nonprofit that studies public health and perceptions of threat. “Once trust starts to erode, the next time they tell you not to worry — you worry.”

    The risk of Ebola infection remains vanishingly small in this country. The virus is not airborne, not able to travel in the way that, say, measles or the SARS virus can. Close contact with a patient is required for transmission. Just one death from Ebola has occurred here, and medical care is light-years from that available in West Africa, where more than 4,400 people have died in the latest outbreak.


    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/16/he...-hysteria.html

    The article goes on to note that the flu kills an estimated 30,000 Americans each year. Nevertheless, many choose not to be vaccinated.
    The ebola outbreak is bad.

    How do I know?... Obama postpones campaign trip amid Ebola fears « Hot Air
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: SECOND Dallas Hospital Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by Derp View Post
    Flu vaccination is overrated.
    The effectiveness is significant, even if it falls short of 100%.

    Vaccine Effectiveness - How Well Does the Flu Vaccine Work? | Seasonal Influenza (Flu) | CDC

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    Re: SECOND Dallas Hospital Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The ebola outbreak is bad.

    How do I know?... Obama postpones campaign trip amid Ebola fears « Hot Air
    No, that just means the political media is making it out to be far more an issue than it really is.

    Do you know just how many Americans died last flu season from the flu with healthcare?
    Do you know just how many Africans died of Ebola without healthcare this epidemic?

    Hint: One is bigger than the other and it's the opposite of what raging partisans think it is.
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    Re: SECOND Dallas Hospital Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Notice I also stated that if the news story is accurate, the CDC also has work to do (beyond what has been a suboptimal PR approach to date). IMO, the best approach is to let the facts come out and drive decision making.

    Moreover, the early issues that have arisen highlight that the U.S. has at least a degree of vulnerability to significant health system shocks, whether they arise from epidemics/pandemics or even biological weapons. The early handling of the Ebola situation has demonstrated gaps in preparedness, training, and equipment.
    This will exist regardless. Healthcare is a finite resource and the funds to fund that finite resource are finite itself. We simply don't have the money or the will to fund healthcare to the point where we can maintain a reasonable level of preparedness.

    Your average total hospital bed capacity of a city is nowhere even hear what is necessary to handle patients in the event of an outbreak or major disaster because the cost to maintain them the rest of the time is prohibitive. Most hospitals are trying to make some money, but maintaining the necessary "stuff" to handle rare incidents like this will bleed them dry. A profitable hospital is not a hospital that can handle a pandemic.
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    Re: SECOND Dallas Hospital Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    No, that just means the political media is making it out to be far more an issue than it really is.

    Do you know just how many Americans died last flu season from the flu with healthcare?
    Do you know just how many Africans died of Ebola without healthcare this epidemic?

    Hint: One is bigger than the other and it's the opposite of what raging partisans think it is.
    Right and Obama said it was highly unlikely that ebola would come here, too.

    Whatever Liberals say, you can bet the opposite is reality. Hell, it turns out there were WMD in Iraq, afterall...lol!
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: SECOND Dallas Hospital Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Right and Obama said it was highly unlikely that ebola would come here, too.
    Politicians say a lot of things.

    You haven't answered the question.


    Whatever Liberals say, you can bet the opposite is reality. Hell, it turns out there were WMD in Iraq, afterall...lol!
    You know, if you took a fraction of the amount of energy you spend on being a ridiculous partisan hack and educated yourself, you'd be a decent poster.

    Anyone who thinks that chemical weapons in shells that have been subjected to desert heat and corrosion for over two decades are viable WMD is really beyond reasonable discussion.
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    Re: SECOND Dallas Hospital Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Politicians say a lot of things.

    You haven't answered the question.




    You know, if you took a fraction of the amount of energy you spend on being a ridiculous partisan hack and educated yourself, you'd be a decent poster.

    Anyone who thinks that chemical weapons in shells that have been subjected to desert heat and corrosion for over two decades are viable WMD is really beyond reasonable discussion.
    We have a president who can't find his ass with both hands, so of course he's playing it down, not to mention the odds the Dems are up against in the mid-terms.

    Hos followers--you--know he can't find his ass with both hands and are willing to back up whatever crap he spews.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: SECOND Dallas Hospital Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We have a president who can't find his ass with both hands, so of course he's playing it down, not to mention the odds the Dems are up against in the mid-terms.

    Hos followers--you--know he can't find his ass with both hands and are willing to back up whatever crap he spews.
    How does any of that address my point?

    If all you have is partisan vomit, please don't respond to me.
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