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    Re: Appeals court reinstates Texas voter ID law

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    People shouldn't have to prove who they are to vote?

    What a genuinely trusting, naive thought.
    I have my doubts that it's trusting and nave, and rather suspect that it's a lack of caring about the integrity of our polling system. I'd love it if the general populace were trustworthy and honest enough that I didn't think voting ID was an issue, but I have seen first hand, and on multiple occasions, that we're not dealing with integrity as a general rule. There are far too many people who stand to benefit personally from well-placed politicians these days.
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    Re: Appeals court reinstates Texas voter ID law

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    That's nice.

    Charging for an ID and then requiring that ID to vote is a poll tax, which is an explicit violation of the 24th Amendment.
    That's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.

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    Re: Appeals court reinstates Texas voter ID law

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Yeah, the ID I use to buy a gun? I paid for that mother****er!
    Since the vast majority of people already have ID's, paid for ID's like drivers licences, gun permits, hunting licences, etc. On these free voter ID's perhaps a notation should be placed on them, "Valid for voting purposes only." I mean since we have to pay for ours. Seems only fair.
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    Re: Appeals court reinstates Texas voter ID law

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    It's never about reluctance to prove one's identity. It's about one's ability to obtain the paperwork, which is more expensive and time consuming than conservatives are willing to admit. If these laws came with a method for providing ID cards, at no cost, to all voters, then liberals would probably get behind them. We're not at all opposed to making sure that votes are cast legally. We're opposed to people being turned away from the polls on election day and not getting to vote at all. We're opposed to putting any extra burdens on lawful voting.
    As someone pointed out before, why put that same burden upon the exercise of our second amendment rights if it is as onerous as you claim? This is the 21 century. No one should have difficulty obtaining a picture ID. And for those few poor souls who cant do it, there are literally billions of campaign dollars floating around each election cycle that can be used to make it happen. Chances are these are the same people democrat operatives pick up in vans and take to the polls anyway. Spend a little extra time a get them an ID first.



    It's probably because voting and gun ownership are different things, and different things are treated differently and have different levels of constitutional protection. One has nothing to do with the other.
    No its because liberals ignore laws they don't like. Demonstrating that you are who you say you are on election day is vital to the integrity of the entire political process. It is actually more important than showing an ID to get a gun.

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    Re: Appeals court reinstates Texas voter ID law

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Wanna see what Republicans truly believe about voting issues? Couple voter-ID laws with a law that allows people to register to vote when they get their driver's licenses and you will watch Republicans run away faster than a kid chasing an ice cream truck. The reality is....Republicans know that when more people vote they lose elections....which is why they try as hard as they possibly can to keep people from voting.
    As long as the process confirms the individual is authorized to vote and nut just a means to cheat I am fine with the process.

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    Re: Appeals court reinstates Texas voter ID law

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    That's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.
    OK, so rebut it.

    Does the 24th Amendment bar poll taxes? Yes.

    What is a poll tax? Attaching a cost to the franchise of voting.

    Is requiring an ID that must be paid for in order to vote attaching a cost to the franchise of voting? Yes.

    Looks pretty airtight to me.
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    Re: Appeals court reinstates Texas voter ID law

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    That's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.
    It is a stretch. Pushing the envelope so to speak. I would say it is not a direct poll tax as one would imagine or studied poll taxes to be. Although it may be an indirect poll tax. I never thought of it as a poll tax either. But in Lawyerese it probably is. Trouble is I do not speak Lawyerese.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Appeals court reinstates Texas voter ID law

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Uh, yeah it does. Have you been paying any attention to the discussion in which you've been participating?
    Have you ever read the 24th Amendment?
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    Re: Appeals court reinstates Texas voter ID law

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Have you ever read the 24th Amendment?

    Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax.

    Section 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.[1]
    Explicitly bars poll taxes. Your weak attempt at deflection has been duly noted and summarily dismissed.
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    Re: Appeals court reinstates Texas voter ID law

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    This is a great opportunity to point out how useless these laws are. So, there were 616 allegations over a period of ten years. Of those, 78 were found to have possible merit and were referred for prosecution. Of those, 46 were deemed to be bonafide cases of election-code violations. Of those, 18 were committed by a person as opposed to organizations, campaigns, and such. Of those, there were only 2 cases involving voter impersonation and both were committed by the SAME person and in one election. So...you're saying that the entire population of Texas must purchase an ID to vote because one person, who's name is Mary Comparin btw, pretended to be two different people in the 2008 general election? And somehow you find that reasonable?
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