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    Re: Houston Mayor orders pastors to turn over sermons about gays, gender and... the m

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The subpoenas are being used to silence dissent, not gather information. The city has zero authority to regulate free speech.
    Not even close. They are gathering information. Obviously it would be stupid to use such information to try to "silence dissent", since that isn't even possibly with our Constitution.
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    Re: Houston Mayor orders pastors to turn over sermons about gays, gender and... the m

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    IOW, "We're going to misuse the power given to us by the people to suppress free speech".
    Only if you want to make hysterical **** up and not bother to read about what actually happened.

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    Re: Houston Mayor orders pastors to turn over sermons about gays, gender and... the m

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Not even close. They are gathering information. Obviously it would be stupid to use such information to try to "silence dissent", since that isn't even possibly with our Constitution.
    It's called, "intimidation", and it's being used to silence dissent.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Houston Mayor orders pastors to turn over sermons, internal communications

    The LYING bully Anise Parker is now trying to backtrack saying it was the Pastors fault who apparently misunderstood.

    BUT, yesterday she tweeted that if the 5 pastors used their pulpits for Political gain then they're fair game.

    What a dishonest hack.

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    Re: Houston Mayor orders pastors to turn over sermons about gays, gender and... the m

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    Only if you want to make hysterical **** up and not bother to read about what actually happened.
    These preachers dared question the mayor. That's what happened.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Houston Mayor orders pastors to turn over sermons about gays, gender and... the m

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's called, "intimidation", and it's being used to silence dissent.
    No, it isn't. At the most it is being used to gather information to invalidate signatures. Whether the signatures were actually "ill gotten" or not remains to be seen and is for the courts to decide, but it gathering the information has nothing to do with "silencing dissent".
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    Re: Houston Mayor orders pastors to turn over sermons about gays, gender and... the m

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's called, "intimidation", and it's being used to silence dissent.
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    These preachers dared question the mayor. That's what happened.
    And you are still making up hysterical shyte.

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    Re: Houston Mayor orders pastors to turn over sermons about gays, gender and... the m

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Not even close. They are gathering information. Obviously it would be stupid to use such information to try to "silence dissent", since that isn't even possibly with our Constitution.
    Our Constitution has been flipped upside down and gutted - it is subjectively interpreted in the most tortured and inane ways, and then arbitrarily enforced, or not enforced by ideologues who care nothing about citizens rights or the rule of law.

    The Patriot Act should have been a wake up call, but most Amerikans cheered for it. The government can invade your privacy and seize your property without warrant, they can arrest you without cause, and they can hold you indefinitely without charge. They can sanction "politically incorrect" thought, action, or speech simply b/c they find it unacceptable.

    Amerika is not a free nation - not in the least. Our Constitution no longer protects us FROM government.

    As for this particular instance, christianity has been in the crosshairs of the radical left, and the monied interests that fund and steer them for decades - for very logical reasons; reasons that have nothing to do with the rights of gays, or miniorities, but rather have everything to do with breaking down America's culture, i.e. Gramscian strategy - infiltrate the institutions and destroy the society from within.

    Attacking all things "Christian" is one of the most important battlefronts. Unfortunately, the war has long since been lost - as should be obvious. Our culture no longer has any identity, i.e. the glue that held us together as a society is gone - making us easy prey authoritarian predators. Divide and conquer.

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    Re: Houston Mayor orders pastors to turn over sermons about gays, gender and... the m

    My hope is the pastors will not comply with the subpoena's and a constitution suit ensues. The pastors I hope will go to jail rather than comply. Sometimes government needs to be called on the mat and who better than the church to push back and say no. If Houston attorney's want information on the sermons, I'm sure they would be welcomed to come Sunday mornings and listen.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Houston Mayor orders pastors to turn over sermons about gays, gender and... the m

    The Mayor won, the issue will not be on the ballot this Nov.
    This whole thing was a delaying tactic, and it worked.
    I suspect the call for discovery, and subpoenas was allthat was needed to get past the deadline.
    She have now backed off the request, because A: She already won, and B: it likely would not stand up in court.
    Houston Mayor Backs Off From Subpoenas to Pastors

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