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    Re: Map: Where Ebola is likely to go next

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Even the Central Committee isn't that callous.

    China, unlike India doesn't have as much an endemic problem with governmental incompetency and I am confident the Chinese can formulate an overall national strategy to control any outbreak that can occur.

    India is the real problem.

    If it gets there, we're in deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep ****.
    Yes, Chinese strategy: bring in the tanks. Just kidding, they also set up detention centers.

    Dude, they can't even sort out their air.

    China is exposed because if it hits in the major population centers on the east coast of China (pacific coast) it is going to be massive. China also has tons of slums. And there is a huge black market, well, not black market as you would imagine it, but shops, vendors and service providers of all sorts that nobody regulates. If it hits it in the middle of village in god knows where, no problem.

    India is also exposed for the correct reasons you stated and because of their cultural norms. They don't kill rats, they bathe in the rivers in common and they usually have very large families within a very small space.

    And in Europe there is 1 reason why it could be very bad, and it's also a reason that applies to China and India and one that the USA doesn't have to worry about: public transport. For once, the USA's complete disregard for energy efficient, pro-enviromental methods of transportation pays off. In Europe and china and India, public transport is huge. Granted, in china and india things are always more crowded than in europe but in europe it gets pretty crowded. I've been a sardine in a bus quite often. Granted, eastern europe not the same as western europe.

    It's why I have bought both gloves and masks and carry them on my person (so not wear them ,but have them with me) at all times when I'm going out these days. For one, to avoid the flu season (which I failed at, I am currently sick, last days of my flu -> granted, i got my flu at work not on the bus) and to avoid other diseases should they make their appearance.

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    Re: Map: Where Ebola is likely to go next

    Ebola is a virulent virus. It can survive outside the body for several days, allowing those who touch contaminated surfaces to infect themselves days after the fact. Also given the fact that it takes around 10 days to show symptoms after infection---the risk for a pandemic is obvious. As about 50 percent of invected indivduals die---the lethality of the virus helps to contain the spread somewhat.

    One must understand that the figures of actual deaths from Ebola in Africa are pure speculation. Outside of a few large cities in Liberia and Sierra Leone, there is no usually no 911 call service, no police, no hospitals. There are no modern CSI teams operating from the corrupt and primative governments there. An entire village in the jungle backwaters there could be wiped-out, and no one in charge would know. There are few paved hiways. Local roadworkers and bandits set up ad-hoc roadblocks to extract bribes for passage. Even short journeys can take days.

    Given that the US with its best experts couldn't save an infected alien with Ebola---one can easily project that the death rates in these African ****hole nations is at least three times higher than given. The best strategy should have been to isolate these infected areas and let nature take its course. All trade and travel there should be banned.

    Large, dirty cities in the US and Europe where these Africans frequent will be the most likely places to be hit next.


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    Most Liberian Americans live on the east coast of United States (New York, New Jersey, Rhode Island, Ohio, Georgia, North Carolina and South Carolina). So, it is thought Rhode Island (specifically Providence) is the state with the largest Liberian population in the country (about 0.4% of the city's population is of Liberian ancestry).[6] Specifically in the western part, most Liberian Americans living on his coast, live in California, especially in Los Angeles, San Francisco, Oakland and Stockton. In fact, the Liberian Community Foundation, in Vallejo, California, estimated that about 4,000 Liberians living in Northern California. Meanwhile, the Liberian Community Association of Southern California, estimates that another 2,000 Liberian Americans live in Southern California.[6] Also Chicago has an important Liberian community because there is the Midwestern Consul General of the Honorary Liberian Consulate.[7] More than 30,000 people of Liberian descent live in Minnesota.[10]
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    Re: Map: Where Ebola is likely to go next

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    Given that the US with its best experts couldn't save an infected alien with Ebola---one can easily project that the death rates in these African ****hole nations is at least three times higher than given. The best strategy should have been to isolate these infected areas and let nature take its course. All trade and travel there should be banned.

    Large, dirty cities in the US and Europe where these Africans frequent will be the most likely places to be hit next
    "Where these Africans frequent"...

    ****ing hell...

    Here's the biggest problem with your strategy, you can't just "isolate" these infected areas and let nature take it's course because if these nations completely fail, the refugee crisis and subsequent spread of infection would be catastrophic especially if it hits Ghana and Nigeria.

    Yes the cases are understated, we know this, but the fact of the matter is it's been proven that this disease is not as infectious as some of you are making it out to be.

    Senegal and Nigeria have both been able to use contact tracing and isolation of individuals to completely contain Ebola, Mr. Duncan was outside Quarantine for 4 days while infectious and besides the unfortunate nurse who was in very close contact with him, no one else under observation has got the disease.

    The best way to protect America, Europe, our livelihoods and the world is to tackle this epidemic at its source or face the consequences.

    What you speak of is sheer insanity and thankfully the adults are at the helm and not petulant, political fear mongerers.

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    Re: Map: Where Ebola is likely to go next

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    "Where these Africans frequent"...

    ****ing hell...

    Here's the biggest problem with your strategy, you can't just "isolate" these infected areas and let nature take it's course because if these nations completely fail, the refugee crisis and subsequent spread of infection would be catastrophic especially if it hits Ghana and Nigeria.

    Yes the cases are understated, we know this, but the fact of the matter is it's been proven that this disease is not as infectious as some of you are making it out to be.

    Senegal and Nigeria have both been able to use contact tracing and isolation of individuals to completely contain Ebola, Mr. Duncan was outside Quarantine for 4 days while infectious and besides the unfortunate nurse who was in very close contact with him, no one else under observation has got the disease.

    The best way to protect America, Europe, our livelihoods and the world is to tackle this epidemic at its source or face the consequences.

    What you speak of is sheer insanity and thankfully the adults are at the helm and not petulant, political fear mongerers.
    A crusader. Good, I would suggest you take the next flight over to Sierra Leone and help them out.

    Is there some reason that the leaders of Liberia and Sierra Leone should be let off the hook and have no responisiblity in cleaning up their own mess?

    You can bet all the other coutries around them are doing their level best to keep refugees out so their nations will not get the virus.

    We can thank fools like Obama, Clinton and the head of our CDC for having the sheer stupidity of letting travelers in with just a temperature check. Risking our troops for countries of no importance is almost as bad.

    But I guess Obama is your Jesus and is infallible.

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