Page 5 of 6 FirstFirst ... 3456 LastLast
Results 41 to 50 of 59

Thread: Poll: Many insured struggle with medical bills

  1. #41
    Sage
    AlbqOwl's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    New Mexico
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 08:21 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    17,568
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Poll: Many insured struggle with medical bills

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    You've got it backwards. I don't have to prove you're wrong; you made the claim so you have to prove that it's true.
    Well come on to Albuquerque and I'll show you our medical costs for the last few years and introduce you to some folks who might be persuaded to show you theirs. Along with some other very obvious evidence to back up the personal experience that I related. You'll have a hell of a time proving that I lied about my own experience. But you made a whole bunch of claims that I didn't make. So why don't you get busy and find some credible sources to back up your claims? Take your time, though, because I honestly don't care what anybody thinks who accuses somebody of lying when he has no clue about what they have experienced.
    "I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it." --Benjamin Franklin 1776

  2. #42
    Sage
    sangha's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Lower Hudson Valley, NY
    Last Seen
    09-17-17 @ 05:48 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    59,990

    Re: Poll: Many insured struggle with medical bills

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    Well come on to Albuquerque and I'll show you our medical costs for the last few years and introduce you to some folks who might be persuaded to show you theirs.
    IOW, you won't back up your claim with proof.

    Quelle surprise.
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

  3. #43
    Sage
    AlbqOwl's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    New Mexico
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 08:21 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    17,568
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Poll: Many insured struggle with medical bills

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    IOW, you won't back up your claim with proof.

    Quelle surprise.
    I offered to back up my claim. Still waiting on you to back up all of yours though.
    "I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it." --Benjamin Franklin 1776

  4. #44
    Sage



    Join Date
    May 2013
    Last Seen
    Today @ 05:17 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Progressive
    Posts
    12,297

    Re: Poll: Many insured struggle with medical bills

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    the only parts of the ACA that i can say are genuinely good are the preexisting conditions part and the ability to stay on your parents' insurance up to age 26. the fact that we left health insurance attached to specific employment and chose to deliver the whole thing through the for profit insurance industry was really disappointing, though. we should have addressed this a long, long time ago. Truman even tried to fix it. should have done it back then.
    Actually the two things you mentioned are the beauty of the plan. Provisions that are so good that the foot is in the door for eventually a better plan.

  5. #45
    Global Moderator
    Moderator
    Helix's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:28 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    37,121

    Re: Poll: Many insured struggle with medical bills

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Actually the two things you mentioned are the beauty of the plan. Provisions that are so good that the foot is in the door for eventually a better plan.
    in my opinion, it would have been better to enact a plan that has a chance of working rather than to pass one that will almost certainly fail in hopes that a plan that works might follow. however, admittedly, that isn't how politics works.

  6. #46
    Sage



    Join Date
    May 2013
    Last Seen
    Today @ 05:17 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Progressive
    Posts
    12,297

    Re: Poll: Many insured struggle with medical bills

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    in my opinion, it would have been better to enact a plan that has a chance of working rather than to pass one that will almost certainly fail in hopes that a plan that works might follow. however, admittedly, that isn't how politics works.
    Ain't that the truth. Of course it would have been better. But I am ok with a foot in the door.

  7. #47
    Sage
    reinoe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    Out West
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 10:03 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    16,120
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: Poll: Many insured struggle with medical bills

    This just in: people hate paying for things and it's Obama's fault!

  8. #48
    Sage
    sangha's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Lower Hudson Valley, NY
    Last Seen
    09-17-17 @ 05:48 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    59,990

    Re: Poll: Many insured struggle with medical bills

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    I offered to back up my claim. Still waiting on you to back up all of yours though.
    You can post your proof whenever you're ready

    Don't worry, I'm not holding my breath
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

  9. #49
    Sage
    AlbqOwl's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    New Mexico
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 08:21 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    17,568
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Poll: Many insured struggle with medical bills

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Actually the two things you mentioned are the beauty of the plan. Provisions that are so good that the foot is in the door for eventually a better plan.
    On the other hand, the government could have put together an assigned risk pool for the pre-existing conditions and initiated competition between insurance companies that would have taken care of all those mid 20's folks still living at home for a hell of a lot less money and grief that it has caused uprooting the entire system and implementing a plan almost nobody likes and that won't do what it was promised to do and will most likely fail.
    "I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it." --Benjamin Franklin 1776

  10. #50
    Banned
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Between Athens and Jerusalem
    Last Seen
    05-18-16 @ 07:06 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    33,522

    Re: Poll: Many insured struggle with medical bills

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Hmmmm....Seems those of us opposed to this disaster of a law said this sort of thing would happen, and oh, look....it is happening...This is making our system worse.
    The left could care less-the ACA was about making them feel good, largely as a step to socialized medicine (they think it will be free, and magically better).

    The fact that real people are really hurting isn't part of the equation.

Page 5 of 6 FirstFirst ... 3456 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •