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    Re: Poll: Many insured struggle with medical bills

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    very true, as it has always been. which is why we should have enacted single payer instead of the ACA half measure. it should have been vetoed.
    But (enter sarcasm). Medical debt is new. Thanks Obama!

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    Re: Poll: Many insured struggle with medical bills

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    But (enter sarcasm). Medical debt is new. Thanks Obama!

    http://www.pnhp.org/new_bankruptcy_s...uptcy-2009.pdf
    the only parts of the ACA that i can say are genuinely good are the preexisting conditions part and the ability to stay on your parents' insurance up to age 26. the fact that we left health insurance attached to specific employment and chose to deliver the whole thing through the for profit insurance industry was really disappointing, though. we should have addressed this a long, long time ago. Truman even tried to fix it. should have done it back then.

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    Re: Poll: Many insured struggle with medical bills

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Muahahahahaha. Our evil plot to establish a system in America where getting medical care isn't based on how much money you have, where nobody goes bankrupt just because they get sick. Soon, very soon, my friend. AaaaaaaaAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAAH *flies away on a skull-shaped jet*
    Ok, that was funny.
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    Re: Poll: Many insured struggle with medical bills

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    the only parts of the ACA that i can say are genuinely good are the preexisting conditions part and the ability to stay on your parents' insurance up to age 26. the fact that we left health insurance attached to specific employment and chose to deliver the whole thing through the for profit insurance industry was really disappointing, though. we should have addressed this a long, long time ago. Truman even tried to fix it. should have done it back then.
    Yes, I can't understand why it's insisted that health insurance should be through your employer. We don't get car or home insurance through our job, so why health insurance? It makes no sense.

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    Re: Poll: Many insured struggle with medical bills

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Boy, you sure packed a lot of lies into one paragraph

    Medical costs have not doubled, ACA has slowed increases in health care costs, group rates have not doubled, and your post is so dishonest you claim that ACA increased coverage and reduced coverage in the same paragraph.



    Jobs have increased, group insurance hasn't doubled and empoyers will keep providing insurance or pay the penalties



    The only taxpayers paying for Medicaid expansion are insurers, medical device suppliers, and people who make more than 250K/yr. ACA did not expand Medicare and the of unisured people in NM has dropped significantly.

    IOW, your post is nothing but a repetition of the same old right wing lies.
    As opposed to the lie that you know more about my experience than I do? As opposed to any lack of proof that what I have posted is not the way it is? I live here. I am dealing with it. And until recently I ran a small business that deals with a lot of small businesses who are dealing with it. And you sir, have absolutely nothing other than what appears to be a highly prejudiced and pro-government wish that I don't know what I am talking about.
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    Re: Poll: Many insured struggle with medical bills

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Universal healthcare is liberation from debt and fear. And healthier.

    I agree, it's liberation from being healthier.
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    Re: Poll: Many insured struggle with medical bills

    Tell me how paying ten times as much for less is healthier. The only thing being liberated in the present US system is your cash from your wallet.
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    Re: Poll: Many insured struggle with medical bills

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Tell me how paying ten times as much for less is healthier. The only thing being liberated in the present US system is your cash from your wallet.
    Tell me how doubling deductibles, and raising premiums for only 4 choices is "more choice at a lower cost"
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    Re: Poll: Many insured struggle with medical bills

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    As opposed to the lie that you know more about my experience than I do? As opposed to any lack of proof that what I have posted is not the way it is?
    You've got it backwards. I don't have to prove you're wrong; you made the claim so you have to prove that it's true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Poll: Many insured struggle with medical bills

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Tell me how doubling deductibles, and raising premiums for only 4 choices is "more choice at a lower cost"
    There go the restless goalposts again.
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