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    Re: Poll: Many insured struggle with medical bills

    Oh great....here's where sangha comes in to tell AlbqOwl that she and her family are not really experiencing what they are experiencing...I swear there is nothing dumber in here than that tactic....

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    You will notice you posted a link to an article more than a year old and reported what they expected to happen--the reality, as I believe the New Mexican subsequently reported--was somewhat different. And a 2% drop in some costs doesn't help all that much. The rapid fire changes we have watched happen throughout the whole system over the past year is mind boggling from severe personnel shortages in the hospitals, urgent care centers, and far fewer doctors to treat far more patients. New Mexico does have a sharp young Republican governor who is managing it all better than the average bear, I believe. But it is still a mess. We just received our plan for 2015 and while some costs did not rise this year, several did. Only the cost for one item went down and not by much.
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    Re: Poll: Many insured struggle with medical bills

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    Don't get me wrong. It is better than no insurance at all, but we fall in with that huge group of people who really liked the insurance we had and were assured we would be able to keep it. Instead we are paying substantially more for less coverage and less access to doctors. It's the primary reason that you are hearing nothing, zero, zip, nada re the wonderful virtues of Obamacare from any candidate right now and the vast majority of Democrat candidates don't want Obama anywhere near them during this election cycle.
    Greetings, AlbqOwl.

    Right now, Ebola has claimed center stage for the past week or so, and prior to that it was our bombing in the ME, so people have been diverted from thinking about Obamacare this close to the midterms. Have they forgotten? That remains to be seen, but I think people remember that the ME problem could have been handled months ago, but wasn't, and a majority of the people still don't understand why Obama hasn't closed our airports to passengers flying from Ebola-ridden countries in Western Africa, as many other countries have done for their countries' economic and potential health crisis problems it could bring, so we are hearing about health care providers getting Ebola in different parts of our country. "Never let a crisis go to waste," as Rahm Emanuel famously stated. Do the voters have short memories? Time will tell.

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    Re: Poll: Many insured struggle with medical bills

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    It was. Obamacare was supposed to fix it. It didn't.
    Correct. Only a system of Universal Healthcare really could eliminate this problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, AlbqOwl.

    Right now, Ebola has claimed center stage for the past week or so, and prior to that it was our bombing in the ME, so people have been diverted from thinking about Obamacare this close to the midterms. Have they forgotten? That remains to be seen, but I think people remember that the ME problem could have been handled months ago, but wasn't, and a majority of the people still don't understand why Obama hasn't closed our airports to passengers flying from Ebola-ridden countries in Western Africa, as many other countries have done for their countries' economic and potential health crisis problems it could bring, so we are hearing about health care providers getting Ebola in different parts of our country. "Never let a crisis go to waste," as Rahm Emanuel famously stated. Do the voters have short memories? Time will tell.
    Yeah, I am pretty sure I posted somewhere that I couldn't shake the suspicion that this whole middle east thing is purely a wag the dog ploy to get the focus off of Obamacare and new revelations in Benghazi and the IRS scandal and an economy that is steadily worsening. As for the Ebola scare, I'm pretty sure all of us with a brain are pretty sure we aren't being told the whole truth about that.
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    Re: Poll: Many insured struggle with medical bills

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    You will notice you posted a link to an article more than a year old and reported what they expected to happen--the reality, as I believe the New Mexican subsequently reported--was somewhat different. And a 2% drop in some costs doesn't help all that much. The rapid fire changes we have watched happen throughout the whole system over the past year is mind boggling from severe personnel shortages in the hospitals, urgent care centers, and far fewer doctors to treat far more patients. New Mexico does have a sharp young Republican governor who is managing it all better than the average bear, I believe. But it is still a mess. We just received our plan for 2015 and while some costs did not rise this year, several did. Only the cost for one item went down and not by much.
    Yes, I posted one link about premiums in 2014 (so of course it's more than a year old) and one link about premiums in 2015. The links show that premiums in NM are some of the cheapest in the nation and are going down.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Poll: Many insured struggle with medical bills

    That is the wonderful thing about citing state averages - some states are naturally going to below the average.
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    Re: Poll: Many insured struggle with medical bills

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Yes, I posted one link about premiums in 2014 (so of course it's more than a year old) and one link about premiums in 2015. The links show that premiums in NM are some of the cheapest in the nation and are going down.
    Cheaper than other states does not negate her claim that hers went up. It also does not affect deductibles and out of pocket expenses. I've said all along that the high deductibles would cause more bankruptcies than previously.

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    Re: Poll: Many insured struggle with medical bills

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    very true, as it has always been. which is why we should have enacted single payer instead of the ACA half measure. it should have been vetoed.
    Then instead of having some people not see the doctor because they couldn't afford it we'd have people not seeing a doctor because the Government decided it couldn't afford it. Progress!
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    Re: Poll: Many insured struggle with medical bills

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Cheaper than other states does not negate her claim that hers went up. It also does not affect deductibles and out of pocket expenses. I've said all along that the high deductibles would cause more bankruptcies than previously.
    Insurance goes up every year, pretty much but claims of 100% are the foundation of right wing propoganda. The fact is that premiums on the individual market went up 5% in NM.

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    Nongroup premiums expected to be relatively affordable. According to the state,9 premiums in 2014 for a silver-level policy for a 40-year-old nonsmoker in Albuquerque will range from $189 to $258 a month, with the second-lowest silver premium of $212 determining the level of federal subsidy an individual receives regardless of the plan chosen. New Mexico’s insurance superintendent had expected premiums in the nongroup and small-group markets for similar products to rise by roughly 10 percent in 2014 but premiums are only about 5 percent higher on average.10 Also, one report indicates Albuquerque’s premiums in 2014 will be lower than in most markets.11
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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