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    Death of British 'troll' sparks debate over Internet bile

    London (AFP) - The death of a British woman accused of a vicious campaign of online abuse against the parents of missing girl Madeleine McCann has ignited debate over the growing scourge of Internet "trolls".

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    It is a trend that has been replicated the world over against high-profile figures.

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    The media lawyer said he had seen "a significant upswing" in online bullying cases.
    But criminal prosecution, said Stephens, should be reserved for the most extreme cases.

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    However, new research confirms what many victims already know, that online trolls can be a sinister bunch.
    A study by Canadian researchers cited in Psychology Today linked trolling to sadism.
    "Both trolls and sadists feel sadistic glee at the distress of others. Sadists just want to have fun... and the Internet is their playground!" it said.

    http://news.yahoo.com/death-british-troll-sparks-debate-over-internet-bile-133700371.html;_ylt=AwrBEiRa9TtU40oAoEnQtDMD
    Interesting article. And although it is speaking of what laws against extreme serial trolling can be brought up is the crux of the article, which is a debate on free speech vs criminal bullying, I think that some things talked about concerning trolling, and the people that do it are a relevant discussion to have today.

    I am trying to not break the rules here so I won't mention anyone, but we all know who the bullies are on this site, and how sadistic they seem to be, so my question for the thread, is two fold.

    1. What is wrong with these people that they feel the need to come in and **** all over the sites they go on?

    2. Do you think that this kind of thing should be against the law? Should people be jailed for it? Thought crime?
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    Re: Death of British 'troll' sparks debate over Internet bile

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    1. What is wrong with these people that they feel the need to come in and **** all over the sites they go on?
    They have no actual life. It makes them feel important even though everybody knows it's sad.

    2. Do you think that this kind of thing should be against the law? Should people be jailed for it? Thought crime?
    I think the punishment is just as it is. Public ostracizing. No laws are needed.


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    Re: Death of British 'troll' sparks debate over Internet bile

    Several British trolls have been tried and jailed. This alleged one died, possibly from overdose, after being confronted by a TV crew from News International's Fox equivalent cable channel.
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    Re: Death of British 'troll' sparks debate over Internet bile

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Several British trolls have been tried and jailed. This alleged one died, possibly from overdose, after being confronted by a TV crew from News International's Fox equivalent cable channel.
    So are you saying he shouldn't have been confronted?
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    Re: Death of British 'troll' sparks debate over Internet bile

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    They have no actual life. It makes them feel important even though everybody knows it's sad.



    I think the punishment is just as it is. Public ostracizing. No laws are needed.
    Just playing devils advocate here, but what of those that take it to the extreme, that brings harm to others?
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    Re: Death of British 'troll' sparks debate over Internet bile

    It's the result of an intersection of a few different aspects that come together to create a fairly tough problem.

    Millions, billions? of people are able to connect to the internet and communicate. A small but potent percentage of these people are sadistic beasts looking for opportunities to hurt others any way they can.

    Anonymity or semi-anonymity is usually possible.

    Repercussions are usually slim to none.

    The only way to stop something like this from a technological perspective is either the abusee needs to close the door and walk away, limiting their options of interacting on the internet... OR invasive identity measures to track, monitor, and deny some people from communicating are necessary. The second one will never ever happen and I wouldn't support anything of the sort anyway, so we're stuck with #1.

    The third (secret) option is to form a counter troll task force to hunt down these perpetrators and troll them until they commit suicide. If anyone is interested PM for details.

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    Re: Death of British 'troll' sparks debate over Internet bile

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So are you saying he shouldn't have been confronted?
    Don't you read your own links? It's there in the OP.
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    Re: Death of British 'troll' sparks debate over Internet bile

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Don't you read your own links? It's there in the OP.
    I know that, and I am aware. What I am questioning, is why you felt the need to bring up that part? Do you think his suicide was the responsibility of the news outlet questioning him? Shouldn't he have been questioned on it? He did after all bully relentlessly that family.
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    Re: Death of British 'troll' sparks debate over Internet bile

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Interesting article. And although it is speaking of what laws against extreme serial trolling can be brought up is the crux of the article, which is a debate on free speech vs criminal bullying, I think that some things talked about concerning trolling, and the people that do it are a relevant discussion to have today.

    I am trying to not break the rules here so I won't mention anyone, but we all know who the bullies are on this site, and how sadistic they seem to be, so my question for the thread, is two fold.

    1. What is wrong with these people that they feel the need to come in and **** all over the sites they go on?

    2. Do you think that this kind of thing should be against the law? Should people be jailed for it? Thought crime?
    There is no need for additional laws to deal with trolling. Perjury laws and such can and should be used to stop people from spreading lies about others online, though it is difficult. On sites like this one, there are rules, the enforcement of which is generally pretty good and effective. In terms of online bullying, well, free speech, like every other right, can be used in negative ways. That is not a reason nor a justification to limit rights.
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    Round them up, make them live under bridges.
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