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    Khamenei blames United States, 'wicked' Britain, for creating Islamic State

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    hameneiblames United States, 'wicked' Britain, for creating Islamic State
    By Michelle Moghtader 10/13/2014

    DUBAI (Reuters) - Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah AliKhamenei, on Monday blamed the United States and the "wicked" Britishgovernment for creating the Islamic State in his first speech since undergoingprostate surgery last month.

    The sharp remarks were a reminder of Iranian suspicions aboutthe West despite the emergence of the ultra-hardline Sunni militants in Iraqand Syria as the common foe of Tehran and Washington.

    "America,Zionism, and especially the veteran expert of spreading divisions - the wickedgovernment of Britain - have sharply increased their efforts of creatingdivisions between the Sunnis and Shi'ites," he said, according to hiswebsite, in a speech marking a Shi'ite Muslim religious holiday
    http://news.yahoo.com/khamenei-blame...133212188.html
    US messes the world by provokating opposite groups. The ISIS, as well as Al Qaeda, are the assets of the Feds. With these conflicts as justification, US interfere the Mid-East affair and control the oil resource.

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    Re: Khamenei blames United States, 'wicked' Britain, for creating Islamic State

    Quote Originally Posted by katsung47 View Post
    The ISIS, as well as Al Qaeda, are the assets of the Feds.
    Why is this outside the CT subforum?

    That the Iranian regime blames the US is not breaking news.

    As a side question: Why do you listen to that regime anyway? If you think the US is so corrupt as to create and support terrorists, then what do you think it's like in a ****hole country? You're giving a totalitarian theocracy more credit for telling the truth than a liberal Western democracy? That makes sense.
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    Re: Khamenei blames United States, 'wicked' Britain, for creating Islamic State

    Quote Originally Posted by katsung47 View Post
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    US messes the world by provokating opposite groups. The ISIS, as well as Al Qaeda, are the assets of the Feds. With these conflicts as justification, US interfere the Mid-East affair and control the oil resource.
    There's a little more to the story. Remember when the U.S. went off the gold standard in the early 70s, and tied the dollar to oil by striking a deal with the king of Saudi Arabia whereby the Saudis would sell their oil only in U.S. dollars in return for protecting their oil fields from potential enemies? Well, by 1975, all of the members of OPEC (Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries) which included Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, and Venezuela, agreed to sell their oil in U.S. dollars only. As a result, every oil-importing nation in the world was forced to accumulate U.S. dollars in order to buy oil. This created a great demand for dollars, which meant that every oil-importing nation sought to sell their products to the U.S. to acquire the necessary dollars to purchase needed oil. This situation amounted to an oil tax applied to the world by the U.S.

    Contrary to what the mainstream media in the U.S. is telling uninformed people concerning the reasons for the invasions of Middle East countries, the real reason has to do with these countries’ decision to either sell their oil in other currencies, or to switch their foreign currency transactions from dollars to euros (Russia and Iran are talking about doing this). It is no coincidence that when Libya decided to dump the dollar, the U.S. responded with an invasion. Syria made a similar decision, and suddenly Assad was a butcher who had to go. Iraq announced their decision to drop the dollar, and was invaded shortly thereafter under the pretext that they were concealing weapons of mass destruction. In 2007, Iran announced that they would nationalize their oil, accepting all currencies. As a result, the U.S. accused them of developing nuclear weapons and wanting to wipe Israel off the map, and then began applying sanctions. They never made such a threat, and sixteen intelligence agencies within the U.S. concluded that they had not been pursuing nuclear weapons capability. At about the same time, Venezuela decided to dump the dollar, and the U.S. declared Hugo Chevez a bad guy who had to go.

    To sum it up, war, in the case of the U.S., is expensive to not wage. In 2001, Iraq began selling their oil in the Euro. We invaded. In 2010 Gaddafi proposed a new currency called the Gold Dinar to replace the dollar for oil sales. We bombed the **** out of his country and caused a regime change. Syria moved away from the Dollar in 06 and Iran in 08. That is what this is all about. There are other geopolitical objectives, sure, such as the pipeline that Syria signed with Iran instead of the U.S.- friendly Qatar, but the Petrodollar is the king. It is literally the only reason the dollar and US economy is stable. The entirety of the Western financial elite need the Petrodollar system and they are willing to go to war and kill millions to defend it. Right now, the US Dollar makes up 2/3rds of the worlds global reserve currency. This is because nearly every oil-exporting country in the world exclusively sells their oil in dollars, so nations are forced to hoard large amounts of the dollar.

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    Re: Khamenei blames United States, 'wicked' Britain, for creating Islamic State

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post

    As a side question: Why do you listen to that regime anyway? If you think the US is so corrupt as to create and support terrorists, then what do you think it's like in a ****hole country? You're giving a totalitarian theocracy more credit for telling the truth than a liberal Western democracy? That makes sense.
    I think US is a covert totalitarian with a cheating mask of "democracy". As a matter of fact, US killed much more civilians in Mid-east in name of a none existed "WMD". US creats war by manipulating its asset false flag "Al Qaeda" and "ISIS".

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    llaryClinton: “We Created Al Qaeda”. The Protagonists of the “Global War onTerrorism” are the Terrorists
    By Prof Michel Chossudovsky

    Global Research, June 01, 2013
    The following video features Hillary Clintoncandidly acknowledging that America created and funded Al Qaeda as a terroristorganization in the heyday of the Soviet-Afghan war.

    What she does not mention is that at no time in thecourse of the last 30 years has the US ceased to support and finance Al Qaedaas a means to destabilizing sovereign countries.
    The Global War on Terror (GWOT) is led by the UnitedStates. It is not directed against Al Qaeda.

    Quite the opposite: The “Global War on Terrorism”uses Al Qaeda terrorist operatives as their foot soldiers.

    “Political Islam” and the imposition of an “Islamic State” (modeled on Qatar or SaudiArabia) is an integral part of US foreign policy.

    America is the Terror State.
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/hillary-clinton-we-created-al-qaeda/5337222

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    Re: Khamenei blames United States, 'wicked' Britain, for creating Islamic State

    I'd like to see the full translated speech instead of snippets by Yahoo. Can you link me?

    Khamenei is basically right. ISIS and Al Qaeda are U.S. creations, either directly or by proxy. Our foreign policy and tendency to play geopolitics with our globalized conglomerates is why we're in this mess.

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    Re: Khamenei blames United States, 'wicked' Britain, for creating Islamic State

    Quote Originally Posted by katsung47 View Post
    I think US is a covert totalitarian with a cheating mask of "democracy". As a matter of fact, US killed much more civilians in Mid-east in name of a none existed "WMD". US creats war by manipulating its asset false flag "Al Qaeda" and "ISIS".

    Anyone wanna field that? I think we let that punt land where it may.

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    Re: Khamenei blames United States, 'wicked' Britain, for creating Islamic State

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Anyone wanna field that? I think we let that punt land where it may.
    "Punt?" That wasn't even a punt, it was just plain loony-tunes, so I guess the only intelligent answer is:
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    Re: Khamenei blames United States, 'wicked' Britain, for creating Islamic State

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    I'd like to see the full translated speech instead of snippets by Yahoo. Can you link me?
    Really? You take the word of a nutjob theocratic dictator as a reasonable assessment of what's goin' on? Is there anyone you do NOT trust? Oh, right... the Western world.

    Khamenei is basically right. ISIS and Al Qaeda are U.S. creations, either directly or by proxy. Our foreign policy and tendency to play geopolitics with our globalized conglomerates is why we're in this mess.
    Yes, the Iranian regime (which funds and otherwise supports Hamas, Hez and terrorists in Africa) is right - it's America's fault.




    Aloo Matar, dude.

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    Re: Khamenei blames United States, 'wicked' Britain, for creating Islamic State

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    I'd like to see the full translated speech instead of snippets by Yahoo. Can you link me?

    Khamenei is basically right. ISIS and Al Qaeda are U.S. creations, either directly or by proxy. Our foreign policy and tendency to play geopolitics with our globalized conglomerates is why we're in this mess.
    ISIS and al-Qaeda are no more creations of the US than French fries are a creation of France
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    Re: Khamenei blames United States, 'wicked' Britain, for creating Islamic State

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Really? You take the word of a nutjob theocratic dictator as a reasonable assessment of what's goin' on? Is there anyone you do NOT trust? Oh, right... the Western world.
    I'm historically versed in the geopolitics of the Middle East, that's why I know that the word of a "nutjob theocratic dictator" is, in this case, correct. Doesn't matter who says it as long as it's the truth.

    Can you quote me as saying I don't trust the western world?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Yes, the Iranian regime (which funds and otherwise supports Hamas, Hez and terrorists in Africa) is right - it's America's fault.
    Iran has plenty of conflict of interest here, but it doesn't change the fact that the statement is true. Al Qaeda and ISIS are America's fault. The government that Iran has is also America's fault, which makes the statement all the more ironic.

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