Second, you can't point to any relevant text anywhere that would hinge the legal question on this "gay gene" test you conjured from thin air.
I'm sorry, but 'states' rights' was a long and comfortable refuge for racists and bigots in my part of the world. Based in part on that history, I don't respect the appeal to states' rights to justify discrimination of any kind. Besides, there is nothing 'unconstitutional' about aggrieved parties arguing their cases in court. These courts were set up as part of the Constitution and operate within the established boundaries.You and others don't get it. This is about states's rights and the foundation upon which this country was built. Get SSM approved in 50 states BY THE PEOPLE and I will accept that but I won't accept what some activist judges say as they overturned the will of the people. That is a violation of the Constitution which liberals don't want to discuss
For those of you touting economic benefits of having SSM here are the facts
Consider the state-level data on per capita personal income growth between 1999 and 2009, published by the U.S. Department of Commerce's Bureau of Economic Analysis.
- See more at: Tired Meme Alert: MN Gay Marriage Advocates Tout Bogus Economic Arguments | NOM BlogThe top five states for income growth in that decade are: Wyoming, North Dakota, Louisiana, Montana and Oklahoma. Four of the five states with the fastest income growth per capita have state marriage amendments, and none have gay marriage.
Or consider another potential measure of a state's business climate: What do CEOs think? Chief Executive magazine annually surveys 543 CEOs to identify which states are the best and the worst for job growth and business. In 2009, the top five states for job growth in CEOs' opinions were: Texas, North Carolina, Florida, Georgia and Tennessee. Four out of five have marriage amendments, and none have gay marriage.
(The worst? California, New York, Michigan, New Jersey, and yes, Massachusetts.)
Or consider another data point that comes from a recent U.S. Chamber of Commerce survey, "Enterprising States," which includes a ranking for what it called "middle-class job growth." These are presumably the good jobs that the creative class seeks or fosters.
The top five states for middle-class job growth between 2002 and 2009 are: Utah, Wyoming, Nevada, Hawaii and Texas. Once again, four out of the five have state marriage amendments, and none have gay marriage.
The U.S. Chamber of Commerce also compiles a list of states that are the top "overall growth performers": North Dakota, Virginia, South Dakota, Maryland and Wyoming. The top three all have state marriage amendments, and none have gay marriage. [Maryland has since rejected same-sex marriage as well.]
Claiming that anyone who is against the liberal agenda is a racist or bigot is typical mudslinging. Would someone who voted for Obama because he was black be called a racist? Is it being a bigot or racists because you disagree with the leftwing liberal gay lifestyle? Guess difference of opinions can always lead to charges of racism and being bigoted in the liberal PC world
Your point?You can apply equal protection to just about any issue as it relates to you.
But equal treatment is. Maybe you should read it sometime instead of making senseless remarks about it.Marriage isn't in the Constitution
And we have your demonstrated bigoted views to take for that eh?you aren't born gay
Considering that there exists still considerable ignorance and bigotry in society, you demonstrating that quite eloquently, Why do you think that anyone would choose to be gay?therefore there is no equal protection for personal choice issues.
And why would someone who supposedly voted FOR (or against) Obama necessarily be a racist. I don't think people who voted for Romney were racist, or there is no reason to link the two...Claiming that anyone who is against the liberal agenda is a racist or bigot is typical mudslinging. Would someone who voted for Obama because he was black be called a racist? Is it being a bigot or racists because you disagree with the leftwing liberal gay lifestyle? Guess difference of opinions can always lead to charges of racism and being bigoted in the liberal PC world
The problem is when people argue against SSM, in court and otherwise, there is little to no substance to the arguments other than a desire to express moral disapproval of the "gay lifestyle" and a desire to deny them rights or privileges you enjoy solely because of their sexual orientation, who they love. If there's a term for that other than bigotry, then suggest it and maybe I'll use it instead.
BTW, what is the "leftwing liberal gay lifestyle?" I know lots of gay people. One guy I worked out with this morning owns two businesses with his partner or 10 years or more, and they have a house and a couple of cats and have dinner with friends. Another guy and his partner (not there this morning, but usually joins us at 5:45am each day) adopted two children from his home city in S. America, and he's on the local PTA board. What part of their "leftwing liberal gay lifestyle" do you disagree with.
I find it rather disturbing that you claim to care about everyone else on an issue that really doesn't affect you. Are you that concerned over abortion(murdering the fetus in the womb) or telling a woman how bad it is to smoke which will harm the baby but then letting her abort her baby?
You are a typical liberal, double standards always wanting the issue but never the responsibility that goes with it. Do you think it is ok for child to grow up in a homosexual household without the benefit of both sexes? Do you think there should be any kind of laws at all? Do you think it is racial bigotry to vote for Barack Obama only because he is black?
I have no idea why anyone would choose to be gay but it happens ever day. I love women, always will, and biologically it all works.
I could go on but it is a waste of time. I have proven my point though, another SSM thread garnering hundreds of responses while major issues in this country are ignored. You people really do have screwed up priorities. I have been asked how SSM marriage affects me? How about answer the question what benefit does a same sex couple get of of being married that they couldn't get from a civil union?
I normally get into these kinds of threads when I am bored. I have family coming in from out of state therefore I am going to bow out. Nothing anyone says here is going to change my mind especially after 40 plus years of marriage and a religious belief system. I also realize that I am not going to change anyone else's mind. Having this issue decided at the ballot box however makes more sense to me and makes it easier to accept vs. some justice overturning the will of the people. To me that is the real issue and one that should concern everyone.
Have a good one.