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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    What part of the fact that it is not a states issue do you not understand. The peoples of various states even if mostly ignorant bigots do not get to vote on who and what rights can people enjoy or be denied. It looks like it is you who needs a remedial civics class.
    The fact that it isn't in the Constitution and that makes it a state issue. Civics isn't a strong suit of yours but arrogance is. Anyone that doesn't agree with you is a bigot? fortunately you constitution less than 5% of the population so I couldn't care less what you think.

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Because I have had a friend of the family who is gay, I was at school with people who happened to be gay. Also, studies kinda show that while it is possible for gay people to live as straight people, this does not make them any less gay, it just makes them choose to live against their nature. Straight men living like gay people is not very likely and the argument just misses all validity IMHO.

    Also, there are at least indicators that show that gay brains may be wired a bit different than straight brains.

    Homosexuality & Choice: Are Gay People 'Born This Way?'
    That is indeed the liberal argument yet you cannot point to the gay gene. I am still waiting. Homosexuality is a personal choice but it is easier for people like you to believe it is inherited or a born trait That is Bull****.

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Are your opinions based on in depth discussions with real live gay people who told you they made a choice?
    I couldn't care less what some gay person has to say on the issue. I prefer science, show me the gay gene? Some people will do or say anything to justify their own behavior.

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Words change throughout history. Again, not a reason. Too bad you are on the losing side. Deal with THAT.

    I have lost nothing nor will I but you are going to lose a lot when states' rights issues are put in the hands of a bureaucrat in D.C. or some justice. You don't understand states' rights at all nor do many here.

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    What does common law say about straight marriage in the Constitution?
    Marriage isn't in the Constitution, when it gets there then you will have an issue. This is a state issue and that is the bigger issue, states' rights. The rest of your posts are simply a rehash and deserve no responses thus you will get none

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I have lost nothing nor will I but you are going to lose a lot when states' rights issues are put in the hands of a bureaucrat in D.C. or some justice. You don't understand states' rights at all nor do many here.
    Funny you and other cons never spoke up when the feds were involved in marriage before. Only when SSM was an issue did you whine and cry. Yes, you and other cons lost.

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Religion is protected, as is gender. That's all marriage...and state recognized 'marriage contracts' need....not allowing SSM is discriminating against one gender or the other in that contract.
    Great, let's get a Constitutional Amendment like with Religion and gender. I will support your efforts and then lobby my Congressional Representative to keep marriage between a man and a woman.

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Funny you and other cons never spoke up when the feds were involved in marriage before. Only when SSM was an issue did you whine and cry. Yes, you and other cons lost.

    I lost nothing but you are losing a states' right issue. Good luck with that massive central govt. and their court system that you seem to not understand

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWatcher
    What's that got to do with what you said?

    You said go out and get a Civil Union, I showed where your State (Texas) like mine (Virginia) doesn't allow Civil Unions. As a registered Republican since 1978 and someone that has been bad mouthed as to my conservative stances on fiscal responsibility, defense, and immigration (I'm more a Goldwater Conservative then a modern Social Authoritarian Conservative) - I voted against the Virginia amendment, how did you vote pertaining to the Texas Amendment?


    A decade ago Social Authoritarians voted to enact discriminatory bans for BOTH Civil Marriage AND Civil Unions when they felt they were in a position of power and that public opinion wouldn't shift. Instead of acting to recognize that same-sex couples deserved the same rights, responsibilities, and benefits as different-sex couples and working for a compromise at that time - State level Civil Unions with equal Federal recognition - Ohhhh no. Your side fought for no recognition at all.

    Your side took Civil Unions off the table and now same-sex Civil Marriage is winning in the Courts, winning in the legislatures, and winning at the ballot box. Well that came back to bite you in the ass.



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    My side? My company headquartered in Houston allows civil unions as well as benefits for same sex partners and this is a Houston based company so not sure exactly what you are talking about. I dealt with competitors as well who did the same thing.

    Didn't ask what your company did. I clearly stated how I voted on the Virginia amendment, I asked how you voted on the Texas amendment. Did you or did you not vote a decade ago to not even allow for Civil Unions in your state?


    Multiple times you have said to posters (and I paraphrase) - "go out and get a Civil Unions". But yet it was Social Authoritarians that took Civil Unions off the table when they thought they had the upper hand.



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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I couldn't care less what some gay person has to say on the issue. I prefer science, show me the gay gene? Some people will do or say anything to justify their own behavior.
    So you think mot gay people are just lying about being "born gay"?

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