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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    Gerrymandering, electoral college, and the **** 2 party system all conspire to guarantee we do not. That's why we'll be stuck with Bush III vs Clinton II and fossils like mccain in the senate. If it's so perfectly representative as you claim, why the hell does wyoming get 2 senators and a vote in ratification, same as huge states like CA and texas? This isn't 1780 anymore. The system is broken.
    Last time I checked it was the people who voted, not the lobbyists but guess you have a problem with that concept. Gerrymandering would indicate that people are robots and the only robots I know are the liberal robots. Suggest they stay out of TX.

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWatcher View Post
    Texas Constitution,
    Section 32
    (a) Marriage in this state shall consist only of the union of one man and one woman.

    (b) This state or a political subdivision of this state may not create or recognize any legal status identical or similar to marriage.

    (Added Nov. 8, 2005.)



    The discrimination crowd blocked that option in many States where they passed bans on BOTH Civil Unions and Civil Marriages.



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    So I guess the will of the people only matters on some issues

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

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    Wouldn't want to force you to pray to my God as you will have to face yours one of these days. I couldn't care less what you think or believe but you want to force your beliefs on me and nothing is going to ever change my mind, marriage is a union between a man and a woman. You want a legal relationship create one, oh wait, we have it is called a civil union. Leave decades and centuries of tradition and precedence alone.
    Something being legal isn't forcing my beleifs on you. You don't have to marry someone of the same sex, nor do you personally have to think they are married. For instance, I was not married in a Catholic church. Therefore the Catholic church does NOT recognize my marriage. You also are not forced to marry someone of the same sex. No beliefs are being forced on you. Hell, you can personally think that homosexuality is a sin.

    Now, please tell me where YOU and the right OWN the word marriage. Show me in writing the property form that dictates YOU own the word marriage and what happens with it.

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Every time I get into this topic I do visit Hell. I don't make decisions for my God and never will. My God will make a decision about me. So far my God has been very good to me and my family. Why is it that people like you are so miserable and unhappy? Liberals are such a miserable lot and calling yourself a moderate is a joke
    I'm not a liberal, not unhappy. I just believe in one less god than you. I am moderate, but compared to someone that is so far flung ultra right like you, anyone would be a liberal. You created your own god, who just happens to believe what you believe...LOL
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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Something being legal isn't forcing my beleifs on you. You don't have to marry someone of the same sex, nor do you personally have to think they are married. For instance, I was not married in a Catholic church. Therefore the Catholic church does NOT recognize my marriage. You also are not forced to marry someone of the same sex. No beliefs are being forced on you. Hell, you can personally think that homosexuality is a sin.

    Now, please tell me where YOU and the right OWN the word marriage. Show me in writing the property form that dictates YOU own the word marriage and what happens with it.
    Getting a little hysterical, the right doesn't own the word marriage, history does

    History of Marriage

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The waste of time and money is on your part, not mine. seems you don't have any problem wasting money on issues important to you but not to have the true will of the people heard. You made the claim that the majority support Same Sex Marriages but cannot prove it at the ballot box and therein lies your problem
    Nope. Those against same sex marriage put the laws in place to begin with. Waste of money. Then they have spent years and millions fighting against the rights of others, which we have seen inevitably, all these bans are being overturned. Waste of money. Fighting DOMA, waste of money. So much wasted money to stop people you don't even know from getting married.

    Actually, 4 states so far have shown that they will vote for same sex marriage and against same sex marriage bans. The only other state to put in a marriage amendment since then was this one, and it was done in a way that guaranteed it would pass, during a Republican primary, where the Dems would not have nearly the turnout since their candidate was the sitting President. That is why the turnout for the vote was around 20% of those who were registered to vote, the smallest turnout for any southern state that voted in a same sex marriage ban.
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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Guess you must have missed the history class on the founding of this country. Interesting that the SC hasn't ruled yet, wonder why? You seem to fear the same group of people that created all those amendments, why? You want marriage in the Constitution, put it there. If not let the people of the states decide their own issues.
    Guess you missed that class on arguing without arrogance and condescending tone.
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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Show me the gay gene?

    Gay by Genes or by Choice? | National Review Online

    You and others try to justify your own decisions by making claims like this. There is no known gay gene
    So what? Just because there is no gay gene does not mean it is a free choice, someone is gay or is not gay. Straight people do not choose to "be gay".
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Nope. Those against same sex marriage put the laws in place to begin with. Waste of money. Then they have spent years and millions fighting against the rights of others, which we have seen inevitably, all these bans are being overturned. Waste of money. Fighting DOMA, waste of money. So much wasted money to stop people you don't even know from getting married.

    Actually, 4 states so far have shown that they will vote for same sex marriage and against same sex marriage bans. The only other state to put in a marriage amendment since then was this one, and it was done in a way that guaranteed it would pass, during a Republican primary, where the Dems would not have nearly the turnout since their candidate was the sitting President. That is why the turnout for the vote was around 20% of those who were registered to vote, the smallest turnout for any southern state that voted in a same sex marriage ban.
    Awesome, four states? 19 states had the will of the people overturned by an activist judge. Guess maybe you aren't as sure as you think when it comes to the majority voting for same sex marriage. What costs would be incurred to put it on the ballot and let the people decide? You really don't understand states' rights do you?

    So don't you find it a little concerning to your cause that there isn't more passion for this issue as only 20% showed up to vote? Interesting logic on your part. If it was as passionate of an issue as you thought more would have turned out just on that issue alone.

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    So what? Just because there is no gay gene does not mean it is a free choice, someone is gay or is not gay. Straight people do not choose to "be gay".
    How do you know straight people haven't CHOSEN to become gay? You spout your opinion and that of others as fact when the proof is there is no such thing as born gay or there would be a "gay" gene. People choose to become gay or that at least is the argument you don't want to address. Wonder why?

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