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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No, what we are talking about is overturning the will of the people on some bogus argument that marriage is a civil right.
    What kind of right is it then?

    This is an issue for the people to decide
    Why and on what principle?

    it is a much bigger issue than two consenting adults signing a legal document
    No it is just that simple, it is you who wants to make it a bigger issue, but lack any evidence that would support that.

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Wouldn't want to force you to pray to my God as you will have to face yours one of these days. I couldn't care less what you think or believe but you want to force your beliefs on me and nothing is going to ever change my mind, marriage is a union between a man and a woman. You want a legal relationship create one, oh wait, we have it is called a civil union. Leave decades and centuries of tradition and precedence alone.
    Why do you fundies always get moist when you fantasize about others going to hell?
    You don't make the decisions for your "god", quit getting off at trying to be him/her.
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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    And by far those attacks are brought on by the acts of self righteous religious bigots. For the other instances, well bigotry is not exclusive to the religious and can be found in all other walks of life. Fortunately for all of us they are fewer and fewer of them.

    Actually from both, as it should.
    Oh, thank you very much, and of course there are no other zealots other than religious ones? Your onesided, biased, partisan opinions if executed by the majority will destroy this country all because you cannot see the forest because of the trees. This country was built on the foundation of limited central govt and power give by the people, for the people, to the people and not the courts. This is a states' rights issue, you better wake up.

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Now all of a sudden you want the courts to overrule the laws you lived under. Why is that?
    Yea, slave owners said the same thing along with those who opposed interracial marriage, desegregation etc. etc so you are in good company.

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Why do you fundies always get moist when you fantasize about others going to hell?
    You don't make the decisions for your "god", quit getting off at trying to be him/her.

    Every time I get into this topic I do visit Hell. I don't make decisions for my God and never will. My God will make a decision about me. So far my God has been very good to me and my family. Why is it that people like you are so miserable and unhappy? Liberals are such a miserable lot and calling yourself a moderate is a joke

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    Yea, slave owners said the same thing along with those who opposed interracial marriage, desegregation etc. etc so you are in good company.
    Slave owners never was the issue, the Constitution was amended by those very people you seem to fear now. Why? Put it on the ballot and let the people of the states decide, not the courts

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Wrong, it is freedom OF Religion, not Freedom FROM religion. Another concept that you cannot grasp
    BOTH something that you clearly can not grasp.

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So put it on the ballot again and see what happens. Let the people of your state decide on a state issue not the courts. Since this fight has been going on for decades and decades what is a few more years? Since as you state it doesn't affect you as you are married then your passion for this issue is misguided.
    As I've said multiple times, don't have to. The other avenue, through the courts, which is completely constitutional, worked for my state just fine. You are just upset because your side lost.

    A few more years to older people trying to get married can be a big difference.

    Oh, and just to give you a little information about me, I'm part of Generation X, which should give you some clue as to how old I am.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No, what we are talking about is overturning the will of the people on some bogus argument that marriage is a civil right. This is an issue for the people to decide not the courts and until marriage is in the Constitution my position stands.

    it is a much bigger issue than two consenting adults signing a legal document, it is about the roles and responsibilities of govt. and about promoting a limited federal govt. that is responsible solely for our defense not our personal responsibility issues.
    You are demanding the government enforce the "will of the people" onto the rights of the minority, based on nothing other than their moral disapproval of the choice of the minority.

    That's not what this country is founded on. This country is founded on the rights of the individual. Our constitution exists specifically to prevent the government from stepping on the rights of the individual. State oppression of individual liberty is still oppression of individual liberty.

    This isn't a direct democracy. Putting the rights of the minority to the vote is not what this country is about.

    You want to ban same-sex marriage? Elect representatives to overturn the 14th amendment.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    BOTH something that you clearly can not grasp.
    Your opinion noted and rejected

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