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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    We are a nation of laws and you cannot seem to comprehend that reality.
    Yes, you're right.

    You are a nation of laws and that's why when a law violates peoples rights, other laws take precedent such as the 14th Amendment.

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

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    19 states authorize gay marriage, only 31 more to go, go for it. This is really a slippery slope and violates the country the founders created, a small limited central govt. This is a state issue, what next on the leftwing agenda to destroy states' rights?
    You need to look again. 30 states currently allow same sex couples to marry, with another one that has issued marriage licenses but may have a stay pending an appeal (Alaska). Five more are likely to go down in the next few weeks.

    Same-sex marriage in the United States

    So that is 19-20 to go, as of right now. The majority of states recognize same sex couples as legally married.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Nothing I said has anything to do with sexuality being controlled by your genes. Personal choices absolutely are protected as civil rights. If it is a choice to marry someone of the same sex or opposite sex (which it really is), then it is also a choice to marry someone of the same race or a different race. The Lovings did not have to marry each other, to be with each other. They simply chose to.

    But even more so than that, religion is a choice and is absolutely protected.
    No, personal choice has never been a protect civil right, EVER. Personal choice is simply that, your decision to do what you want regardless of the law. Loving's ruling specifically stated this was about race and race is protected in the Constitution. You want gay rights to be protected, put them in the Constitution. Until then stop having justices overturn the will of the people.

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    You need to look again. 30 states currently allow same sex couples to marry, with another one that has issued marriage licenses but may have a stay pending an appeal (Alaska). Five more are likely to go down in the next few weeks.

    Same-sex marriage in the United States

    So that is 19-20 to go, as of right now. The majority of states recognize same sex couples as legally married.
    19 of those states were forced by justices. Is that how you want this country run?

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Gays have the same rights as I have, they can marry anyone of the opposite sex. You continue to make this a civil rights issue and being gay isn't a civil right just like being straight isn't a civil right. It is a personal choice issue. Now you want gay marriage, sell it to 50 states. What are you afraid of?
    I do not have the same right you do, to marry a man. That violates my civil rights as a woman, no matter if I am gay or straight.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    19 of those states were forced by justices. Is that how you want this country run?
    Over a dozen states were forced by justices to allow interracial couples to marry. You better believe that I want our country to run that way when states are attempting to deny people rights because simple majorities aren't comfortable with some people getting married.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So then there isn't an issue, solved in Loving vs. Va. Amazing how this ruling is what you want it to be when the actual ruling is all about race, not SSM
    They dismissed the arguments you are making. That's why people are laughing at the arguments you are making.

    "Everyone has the same right to marry someone of the opposite gender!" I mean, really? You think that's something that withstands the equal protection clause?
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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No, personal choice has never been a protect civil right, EVER. Personal choice is simply that, your decision to do what you want regardless of the law. Loving's ruling specifically stated this was about race and race is protected in the Constitution. You want gay rights to be protected, put them in the Constitution. Until then stop having justices overturn the will of the people.
    What the hell do you call religion? It is a personal choice. In fact, interracial marriage is a personal choice.

    And if you are basing Loving off of race, then same sex marriage is being restricted by sex, not sexuality. Since your sex/gender is not a personal choice, that means that it is protected, according to your logic.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Need to have the courts do what you cannot sell the people? You don't have a problem with that?
    Worked with interracial marriage. 16 states and over 70% of the people in the nation were against interracial marriage when the Loving decision was made. So obviously you don't have an issue with it either if you support Loving.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No, personal choice has never been a protect civil right, EVER. Personal choice is simply that, your decision to do what you want regardless of the law. Loving's ruling specifically stated this was about race and race is protected in the Constitution. You want gay rights to be protected, put them in the Constitution. Until then stop having justices overturn the will of the people.

    Really?


    Here are some examples:

    Religion is a personal choice, Religion is a protected Civil Right.

    What you wish to say is a personal choice, Free Speech is a protected Civil Right.

    Coloreds could marry coloreds and whites could marry whites - the state claimed they were treated equally, however the CHOICE to marry someone of a different race is a protected Civil Right




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