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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Not at all. I'm very aware of what happened, and easily explained it. That is not a majority of the state or even registered voters. It is a majority of those voters, mostly Republican, at the time that voted at that single point 2 years ago.

    Thom Tillis doesn’t want to discuss gay marriage: The GOP Senate candidate knows that North Carolinians have changed their minds about marriage equality.



    As I said, it was setup so it had to pass. And there were still plenty of voters who voted on it at the time who didn't even realize that it banned any unions at all, so they wouldn't have voted for it had they known. Political setup 2 years ago. Wouldn't stand a chance if done in this next election.
    Then put it back on the ballot and let the state decide. Don't get the Federal Govt. involved in a state issue

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

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    Marriage is common law and controlled by the states leaving it up to the states to decide. You don't seem to be able to comprehend the concept
    You are the one who cannot comprehend the concept that it still has to uphold equal protection guarantees.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Then put it back on the ballot and let the state decide. Don't get the Federal Govt. involved in a state issue
    Nope. Same sex couples are getting married right now here in NC. Deal with it. That isn't going away.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    This was the same veiled bigotry used to defend interracial marriage bans - "They have the same rights, they can just marry the same race." How quickly you and practically every other SSM opponent changes their tune where their own logic is applied against minorities they can tolerate more than homosexuals.
    Sorry but I am a states' right supporter and this is where it belongs

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Equal rights refers to anything listed in the Constitution. Where did you get your basic civics education?

    Here is the 4th attempt at this question...



    Do you believe that the Constitution is a list of rights and if a right is not enumerated there that they are not held by the people?


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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Nope. Same sex couples are getting married right now here in NC. Deal with it. That isn't going away.
    So the will of the people doesn't matter, thanks and remember that when Republicans take over control of that massive central govt. you are creating.

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWatcher View Post
    Here is the 4th attempt at this question...



    Do you believe that the Constitution is a list of rights and if a right is not enumerated there that they are not held by the people?


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    If the laws aren't in the Constitution then they are created at the state level by the people. The people have the right to determine whether or not they support SSM and that is where the issue belongs, not in the courthouse

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Held by the people, voted on by the people

    "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

    That says "powers" not rights, so again...


    Do you believe that the Constitution is a list of rights and if a right is not enumerated there that they are not held by the people?


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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So the will of the people doesn't matter, thanks and remember that when Republicans take over control of that massive central govt. you are creating.
    Won't happen. Besides, this issue is over. Republicans don't stand a prayer on changing this issue in their favor. Too many support same sex marriage, particularly among the younger generation.

    Of course, now you are admitting that Republicans, conservatives wish to take over and control a "massive central government".
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So what you believe is right is indeed right? What gives you that power and that arrogance? The equal protection clause has nothing to do with marriage and that is why the Supreme Court hasn't ruled on it. This is a state issue. you don't like it, tough ****. move to a state that allows you to do what ever the hell you want and think is right.

    Equal protection can be used for almost any issue you want and just because you want it, doesn't make it right. we are a nation of laws and the people of N.C. spoke in huge numbers. You don't like the results so you go to some robed justice to get your will imposed on everyone else.

    I really suggest focusing on what is really important, the economy and national security.
    oh and i suppose you believe the uneducated masses in NC all had the constitution in mind when they voted for the ban. They by and large don't give a rat's ass and could not name even a handful of amendments, just like i doubt very much you care either. This is and always has been about ****ting on a disliked minority

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