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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Conservative, identify the exact line or lines in the constitution that lists interracial marriage.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWatcher View Post
    For at least the 3rd time now...


    Do you believe that the Constitution is a list of rights and if a right is not enumerated there that they are not held by the people?



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    Held by the people, voted on by the people

    "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Equal rights refers to anything listed in the Constitution. Where did you get your basic civics education?
    I read the 14th amendment, which you clearly have not.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Conservative, identify the exact line or lines in the constitution that lists interracial marriage.
    Loving was a race issue not a marriage issue. Why hasn't the SC ruled on SSM? Pretty simple, it is a state issue.

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Held by the people, voted on by the people

    "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
    Amendment 9
    The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.[1]

    Amendment 14
    Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Where is marriage listed in the Constitution?
    That question has literally nothing to do with what he said. Indeed, he tacitly acknowledged that marriage isn't in the constitution.

    What he's saying is the constitution does state that there must be equal protection under the law.

    And the constitution does state that the amendments within it apply equally to the states as it does to the federal government.

    Therefore laws at the state level must STILL have equal protection under the law.

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I read the 14th amendment, which you clearly have not.
    Noticed you ignored this part of the Constitution, not surprising

    "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

    Since marriage isn't listed in the Constitution it is left to the states and thus the people. TX is saying no as are 31 other states

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Marriage isn't an equal protection issue, never has been
    Actually, it is. No better recognition of this fact can be found than in the number of mixed marriages where such couples were harassed, threatened w/physical abuse and in some cased lost their lives all because the couple married someone who was not of their racial makeup. But that's on the physical side.

    There are also instances where mixed race couples were denied housing and/or employment once word got out that a white woman had married a black man (or visa versa). I don't know of any case where a mixed couple lost their federal benefits on the basis of race, but I know of a few common-law marriages between civilian couples that fell into that gray area.
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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    That question has literally nothing to do with what he said. Indeed, he tacitly acknowledged that marriage isn't in the constitution.

    What he's saying is the constitution does state that there must be equal protection under the law.

    And the constitution does state that the amendments within it apply equally to the states as it does to the federal government.

    Therefore laws at the state level must STILL have equal protection under the law.
    Equal protection of what laws? if it isn't in the Constitution it is a state issue, pretty easy to see that in the Constitution

    "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Loving was a race issue not a marriage issue. Why hasn't the SC ruled on SSM? Pretty simple, it is a state issue.
    Same sex marriage is a gender issue not a marriage issue.

    if it were a "state issue," SCOTUS would have overturned the circuit court rulings because those rulings just overturned state laws. State decisions were just reveesed by federal courts, and SCOTUS did not intervene.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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