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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    The law of Alaska will not be amended for a while, even if it is ignored.
    A law that cannot be enforced, is not a valid law, whether on the books or not.

    There are segregation laws still on the books in some states.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    A law that cannot be enforced, is not a valid law, whether on the books or not.

    There are segregation laws still on the books in some states.
    It can be enforced. There is nothing which can, strictly speaking, make county clerks sign marriage licenses.

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    It can be enforced. There is nothing which can, strictly speaking, make county clerks sign marriage licenses.
    They can be fired for refusing to do so, and should be if they are not giving licenses to or accepting marriage licenses from same sex couples. And they can then be sued by those couples if it holds up their marriage.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Why not, they've been waiting?
    Some have, and some have fought for the right to, but that doesn't mean they will just all go out and do it. I believe in the right for me to protest, that doesn't mean I am going to go out and do that each day.

    That's why I think it is hilarious watching the hysteria of some conservatives thinking that the state is going to go bankrupt due to taxes of married SS couples.

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    They can be fired for refusing to do so, and should be if they are not giving licenses to or accepting marriage licenses from same sex couples. And they can then be sued by those couples if it holds up their marriage.
    Yet if they are moral people they can do so nonetheless.

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    Yet if they are moral people they can do so nonetheless.
    Everyone is a "moral" person, because everyone has their own morals.

    What you mean is that if everyone shared your morals, that they will refuse to issue marriage licenses to same sex couples.

    I hope they try so that they can get fired and be replaced by someone less bigoted.
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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Most of the recognitions/benefits of spouses come from the federal government, not the state. So you can continue the crap about how it hasn't been a federal issue, but you would be wrong. It simply isn't true.

    And the federal government has struck down state marriage restrictions, the same thing that same sex marriage restrictions are, 3 times in the past.
    All the Federal Govt. has to do is change the laws regarding economic issues and leave the states controlling the marriages like they have been doing for centuries. This isn't a Federal issue, it is a state issue and always has been. You want to be married to your same sex Partner move to a state that allows it. Put the issue on a national ballot and see what . happens. Stop whining about an equal rights issue ignoring that you have the same rights I have, marrying someone of the opposite sex. That doesn't suit you so you have to get a judge to overturn the will of the people.

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    All the Federal Govt. has to do is change the laws regarding economic issues and leave the states controlling the marriages like they have been doing for centuries. This isn't a Federal issue, it is a state issue and always has been. You want to be married to your same sex Partner move to a state that allows it. Put the issue on a national ballot and see what . happens. Stop whining about an equal rights issue ignoring that you have the same rights I have, marrying someone of the opposite sex. That doesn't suit you so you have to get a judge to overturn the will of the people.
    Or simply make the states allow same sex couples to marry, as they should. I do not have the same rights as you because I cannot marry a woman, you can. Just as in the past blacks and whites did not have the same rights. A black person could not marry a white person but a white person could. A white person could not marry a black person but a black person could marry a black person. That is unequal rights.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    All the Federal Govt. has to do is change the laws regarding economic issues and leave the states controlling the marriages like they have been doing for centuries. This isn't a Federal issue, it is a state issue and always has been. You want to be married to your same sex Partner move to a state that allows it. Put the issue on a national ballot and see what . happens. Stop whining about an equal rights issue ignoring that you have the same rights I have, marrying someone of the opposite sex. That doesn't suit you so you have to get a judge to overturn the will of the people.

    All the Federal Govt. has to do is change the laws regarding economic issues and leave the states controlling the marriages like they have been doing for centuries. This isn't a Federal issue, it is a state issue and always has been. You want to be married to your different race Partner move to a state that allows it. Put the issue on a national ballot and see what . happens. Stop whining about an equal rights issue ignoring that you have the same rights I have, marrying someone of the same race. That doesn't suit you so you have to get a judge to overturn the will of the people.



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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Or simply make the states allow same sex couples to marry, as they should. I do not have the same rights as you because I cannot marry a woman, you can. Just as in the past blacks and whites did not have the same rights. A black person could not marry a white person but a white person could. A white person could not marry a black person but a black person could marry a black person. That is unequal rights.
    This certainly is a passionate issue for some of you and yet you won't let the people of your state decide. Why is that? Yes, you do have the same rights as I have as I cannot marry a man either. This is about same sex marriage and you have the same rights as I have. You want to overturn decades of precedence all because of your own morals. This is a country of laws made by people and voted on by people. Let the people of each state decide not a person on the courts.

    Race is protected under the Constitution, read it. Where is marriage defined in the Constitution?

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