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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    1.)I am not interested in excluding people based on their sexual preference. I am interested in marriage staying the sensible institution it has always been (for the most part), as a union of the opposite sex.
    2.) Homosexual marriage makes no sense at all and is, in fact, an oxymoron.
    1.)translation: your views are against equal rights and view homosexuals and bi-sexual as lesser
    2.) facts prove this wrong to, so does a basic dictionary lol
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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    I did address the subject head on. Homosexuals have the same rights everyone else has. The person who didn't come at this head on was the one that said that if you don't have the right to marry whatever gives you a chubby then you don't have equal rights and I pointed out that was wrong.
    Everyone has more rights when same sex couples can get married. Everyone can marry someone of the same sex, not just homosexuals and bisexuals. Plus, no one is losing any rights when same sex couples can marry legally.
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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    I think we're done here. It seems no one is really interested in actual discussion and all I'm doing is agitating homosexuals. It's enough that my state hasn't capitulated to the politically correct insanity on this.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    I think we're done here. Its seems no one is really interested in actual discussion and all I'm doing is agitating homosexuals. It's enough that my state hasn't capitulated to the politically correct insanity on this.
    Translation: your posts and the lies in them have been destroyed and debunked by many posters and many posts.



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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    The quote was: "Homosexuals do not have the right to marry who they genuinely love and are sexually attracted to, unlike heterosexuals. So no, they don't have the same rights. Try again.".

    And I merely pointed out that pedophiles don't get to marry who they "genuinely love and are sexually attracted to", either. So much for the "rights" issue.
    Hilarious - laws against pedophilia (child rape) prove that gays have no right to marry. Is that meant to be a serious argument? Scraping the dregs off the bottom of the barrel I see. LMAO.....

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Yes, because they ARE NOT responsible for interpreting the constitution, they were never given that grant of power, they took it. I'm not familiar with Coulter's arguments, but yes, I do believe the reconstruction amendments were targeted at, you know, reconstruction of the country without slavery.
    Given the last 200 years, I'd say the majority of the people have given them that power since so far no one has contradicted their decisions, even when those decisions pissed off a ton of people.
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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    I think we're done here. It seems no one is really interested in actual discussion and all I'm doing is agitating homosexuals. It's enough that my state hasn't capitulated to the politically correct insanity on this.
    What's your state?

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

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    What's your state?
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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

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    Ah. What's going on in that fine state with regards to ssm?

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Ah. What's going on in that fine state with regards to ssm?
    Nothing. Ohio has a sane position on the matter.

    Chapter 3101: MARRIAGE


    3101.01 Persons who may be joined in marriage - minor to obtain consent.
    (A) Male persons of the age of eighteen years, and female persons of the age of sixteen years, not nearer of kin than second cousins, and not having a husband or wife living, may be joined in marriage. A marriage may only be entered into by one man and one woman. A minor shall first obtain the consent of the minor's parents, surviving parent, parent who is designated the residential parent and legal custodian of the minor by a court of competent jurisdiction, guardian, or any one of the following who has been awarded permanent custody of the minor by a court exercising juvenile jurisdiction:

    (1) An adult person;

    (2) The department of job and family services or any child welfare organization certified by the department;

    (3) A public children services agency.

    (B) For the purposes of division (A) of this section, a minor shall not be required to obtain the consent of a parent who resides in a foreign country, has neglected or abandoned the minor for a period of one year or longer immediately preceding the minor's application for a marriage license, has been adjudged incompetent, is an inmate of a state mental or correctional institution, has been permanently deprived of parental rights and responsibilities for the care of the minor and the right to have the minor live with the parent and to be the legal custodian of the minor by a court exercising juvenile jurisdiction, or has been deprived of parental rights and responsibilities for the care of the minor and the right to have the minor live with the parent and to be the legal custodian of the minor by the appointment of a guardian of the person of the minor by the probate court or by another court of competent jurisdiction.

    (C)

    (1) Any marriage between persons of the same sex is against the strong public policy of this state. Any marriage between persons of the same sex shall have no legal force or effect in this state and, if attempted to be entered into in this state, is void ab initio and shall not be recognized by this state.

    (2) Any marriage entered into by persons of the same sex in any other jurisdiction shall be considered and treated in all respects as having no legal force or effect in this state and shall not be recognized by this state.

    (3) The recognition or extension by the state of the specific statutory benefits of a legal marriage to nonmarital relationships between persons of the same sex or different sexes is against the strong public policy of this state. Any public act, record, or judicial proceeding of this state, as defined in section 9.82 of the Revised Code, that extends the specific statutory benefits of legal marriage to nonmarital relationships between persons of the same sex or different sexes is void ab initio. Nothing in division (C)(3) of this section shall be construed to do either of the following:

    (a) Prohibit the extension of specific benefits otherwise enjoyed by all persons, married or unmarried, to nonmarital relationships between persons of the same sex or different sexes, including the extension of benefits conferred by any statute that is not expressly limited to married persons, which includes but is not limited to benefits available under Chapter 4117. of the Revised Code;

    (b) Affect the validity of private agreements that are otherwise valid under the laws of this state.

    (4) Any public act, record, or judicial proceeding of any other state, country, or other jurisdiction outside this state that extends the specific benefits of legal marriage to nonmarital relationships between persons of the same sex or different sexes shall be considered and treated in all respects as having no legal force or effect in this state and shall not be recognized by this state.

    Effective Date: 05-07-2004

    3101.02 Method of consent.
    Any consent required under section 3101.01 of the Revised Code shall be personally given before the probate judge or a deputy clerk of the probate court, or certified under the hand of the person consenting, by two witnesses, one of whom shall appear before the judge and make oath that the witness saw the person whose name is annexed to the certificate subscribe it, or heard the person consenting acknowledge it.

    Amended by 129th General AssemblyFile No.52, SB 124, 1, eff. 1/13/2012.
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