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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    Equality isn't the issue. No one is barred from marriage because they're a homosexual. Homosexuals have all the rights everyone else has.
    Homosexuals do not have the right to marry who they genuinely love and are sexually attracted to, unlike heterosexuals. So no, they don't have the same rights. Try again.
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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Imagine what we're hostile to that will be seen that way in another century... It's difficult to imagine that equal rights for gays isn't one such issue. But I imagine that there will be things we haven't even thought of yet that will be fundamental rights to future generations.
    According to the SSM haters, it will be marriage to our pets and 3 year olds.

    I'd imagine cognitive research will reveal behaviors we've traditionally viewed as immoral to be more rooted in biology instead, possibly leading to rights we can't foresee. To an extent, this accounts for how SSM became possible.

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    If you don't want to flyfish, don't insist on fishing a flyfishing only stream and don't whine that you are being persecuted because you prefer spinning tackle.

    Marriage is a heterosexual thing and always was despite specious arguments by homosexuals and advocates of homosexuality. Two people of the same sex living together may be a relationship of one sort or another but it isn't a marriage.
    Are you seriously comparing someone's sexual preference to fly fishing?

    Sorry but someone not being able to be what they are and not liking it is not the same thing as frigging fly fishing, that is just insanity.

    Marriage is not a heterosexual thing, religious people have decided that and that means that it discriminates against gays and lesbians and that is not moral nor is it right IMHO. And gays or lesbians living together for life is a marriage, sorry but marriage is nothing more than 2 people living together and affirming their love and their desire to live together for life and gays and lesbians are just as capable of doing that as straight people.
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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    Homosexuals do not have the right to marry who they genuinely love and are sexually attracted to, unlike heterosexuals. So no, they don't have the same rights. Try again.
    Pedophiles don't have the right to marry who they genuinely love and are sexually attracted to, either. What makes you think there is some right to marry whatever you genuinely love and are sexually attracted to?
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Are you seriously comparing someone's sexual preference to fly fishing?

    Sorry but someone not being able to be what they are and not liking it is not the same thing as frigging fly fishing, that is just insanity.

    Marriage is not a heterosexual thing, religious people have decided that and that means that it discriminates against gays and lesbians and that is not moral nor is it right IMHO. And gays or lesbians living together for life is a marriage, sorry but marriage is nothing more than 2 people living together and affirming their love and their desire to live together for life and gays and lesbians are just as capable of doing that as straight people.
    I understand that you don't think other people's definition of marriage should be forced on you but what you don't seem to get is that other people don't want your definition of marriage forced on them, either, and to most sane people in this world, a marriage isn't a marriage unless it has one member of BOTH sexes.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    Pedophiles don't have the right to marry who they genuinely love and are sexually attracted to, either. What makes you think there is some right to marry whatever you genuinely love and are sexually attracted to?
    lol did you just compare child rape to marriage? LMAO
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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    I understand that you don't think other people's definition of marriage should be forced on you but what you don't seem to get is that other people don't want your definition of marriage forced on them, either, and to most sane people in this world, a marriage isn't a marriage unless it has one member of BOTH sexes.
    good thing nobody is forcing any definition on you, if you disagree simply post facts that prove its being forced on you. We will wait. LOL
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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    I understand that you don't think other people's definition of marriage should be forced on you but what you don't seem to get is that other people don't want your definition of marriage forced on them, either, and to most sane people in this world, a marriage isn't a marriage unless it has one member of BOTH sexes.
    You really think anyone's going to care if you personally hold fingers in ears and wear a blindfold every time a gay couple gets hitched. All they want is the rights and legal equality. It doesn't affect you in the least, so you'd be taken more sincerely if you dropped the martyr crap.

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    Pedophiles don't have the right to marry who they genuinely love and are sexually attracted to, either. What makes you think there is some right to marry whatever you genuinely love and are sexually attracted to?
    Playing the "pedophile" card is pretty weak. It's right up there with bestiality as a legitimate argument against SSM, which involves two consenting, competent, sane adults who are capable of the same love for their partner as you are. BTW, if the "whatever you genuinely love" word choice was intentional, you're flying the bigotry flag pretty high! Gays aren't a "what" they're human beings same as you.

    Besides, what makes you think there is some right for you to pick and choose who can and cannot get married? Like you, I'm over 50 and no one has ever asked me permission to get married.
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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    Pedophiles don't have the right to marry who they genuinely love and are sexually attracted to, either. What makes you think there is some right to marry whatever you genuinely love and are sexually attracted to?
    You keep whining that people compare gay marriage to interracial marriage, and then keep bringing up pedophilia. Why, a few pages back you even brought up the "everyone has the same right to marry someone of the opposite gender," logic you know full well was shot down with "everyone has equal right to marry someone of the same race." You keep bringing up pedophilia, and I'm going to keep bringing up race. You keep making identical arguments to the people who opposed Loving, and I'm going to keep pointing out all of those arguments have been dismissed in the past.

    Children cannot sign legal contracts nor consent to sexual activity. This is upheld by the compelling state interest to protect children from abuse. Pedophilia, therefore, is not required to be protected under the equal protection clause. Slippery slope over. We know you'll keep bringing it up anyway. You cannot identify a similar interest in preventing two male adults from marrying each other.
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