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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    Marriage equality. That's really the right phrase because this isn't about equal rights for people.

    I hope my state has the distinction of being the last to succumb to liberal social engineering.


    Why? What impact on your life does same-sex marriage have? Can you name a single thing? How is getting equal rights for homosexuals to marry the person they love not "equal rights for people?" Are you saying homosexuals aren't people??
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

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    Every state that comes after this has the wonderful distinction of being slower than Alaska in establishing marriage equality.
    yep I wonder what state will be last to deliver on equal rights. . . .

    had a poll on it before and mississippi was the top guess
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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

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    yep I wonder what state will be last to deliver on equal rights. . . .

    had a poll on it before and mississippi was the top guess
    At this point it's more about the speed of the individual circuits than the states themselves.
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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

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    At this point it's more about the speed of the individual circuits than the states themselves.
    probably right!
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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

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    Why? What impact on your life does same-sex marriage have? Can you name a single thing?
    It doesn't have to impact my life directly in order for it to matter. It impacts my SOCIETY. It impacts my state taxes. It impacts our court systems. It is not something my state needs or wants because my state doesn't consider homosexual unions to be the fundamental building block of society that it feels needs to be endorsed, encouraged and supported. I think it is quite reasonable enough that the state does not consider homosexuality to be a criminal behavior and does not interfere with people living with or having sex with whomever they choose. Homosexuals may enjoy their homosexual relationships without interference from the state - but also without the state's blessing. I know it's just awful that all the homosexuals in Ohio can't say "we're just as normal as heterosexuals" but our state just isn't interested in perpetuating that lie.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    It doesn't have to impact my life directly in order for it to matter. It impacts my SOCIETY. It impacts my state taxes.
    So you want homosexual couples to pay more taxes than you do? ...interesting. So, heterosexual marriage's impact on state taxes just doesn't matter?

    It impacts our court systems.
    Specify a negative impact on our courts. Unless you don't mean there is a negative impact, just that there's an impact.

    It is not something my state needs or wants because my state doesn't consider homosexual unions to be the fundamental building block of society that it feels needs to be endorsed, encouraged and supported.
    Still not an impact. "I don't want it" is a desire, not an impact.

    I think it is quite reasonable enough that the state does not consider homosexuality to be a criminal behavior and does not interfere with people living with or having sex with whomever they choose. Homosexuals may enjoy their homosexual relationships without interference from the state - but also without the state's blessing. I know it's just awful that all the homosexuals in Ohio can't say "we're just as normal as heterosexuals" but our state just isn't interested in perpetuating that lie.
    You still haven't specified any impact. Other than taxes.

    Don't try and BS me. You don't oppose same-sex marriage because of taxes. Is the best you have really "I don't want it, so if it happens that's an impact?"
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    1.) It doesn't have to impact my life directly in order for it to matter.
    2.) It impacts my SOCIETY.
    3.)It impacts my state taxes.
    4.) It impacts our court systems. It is not something my state needs or wants because my state doesn't consider homosexual unions to be the fundamental building block of society that it feels needs to be endorsed, encouraged and supported. I think it is quite reasonable enough that the state does not consider homosexuality to be a criminal behavior and does not interfere with people living with or having sex with whomever they choose. Homosexuals may enjoy their homosexual relationships without interference from the state - but also without the state's blessing. I know it's just awful that all the homosexuals in Ohio can't say "we're just as normal as heterosexuals" but our state just isn't interested in perpetuating that lie.
    awwww sorry you are bothered by equal rights


    another fail

    theres NOTHING in your post that is factual AND that matters to equal rights, in fact, much of its logic is flat out factually wrong lol

    do you have ONE single legit, accurate and dare I say fact based argument to deny others equal rights? . . . one, we'd love to hear it
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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

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    awwww sorry you are bothered by equal rights


    another fail

    theres NOTHING in your post that is factual AND that matters to equal rights, in fact, much of its logic is flat out factually wrong lol

    do you have ONE single legit, accurate and dare I say fact based argument to deny others equal rights? . . . one, we'd love to hear it
    No man, he's correct on one part. It does impact his state taxes. He believes in higher taxes for homosexuals. Probably just being jealous, wanting to redistribute their wealth. That's the usual excuse for supporting higher taxes, right?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    It doesn't have to impact my life directly in order for it to matter. It impacts my SOCIETY. It impacts my state taxes. It impacts our court systems. It is not something my state needs or wants because my state doesn't consider homosexual unions to be the fundamental building block of society that it feels needs to be endorsed, encouraged and supported. I think it is quite reasonable enough that the state does not consider homosexuality to be a criminal behavior and does not interfere with people living with or having sex with whomever they choose. Homosexuals may enjoy their homosexual relationships without interference from the state - but also without the state's blessing. I know it's just awful that all the homosexuals in Ohio can't say "we're just as normal as heterosexuals" but our state just isn't interested in perpetuating that lie.
    Your society? How about everyone's society? Your wedding behavior impacts the state taxes of the unmarried, elderly and the gays? Your marrying impacts their court system. You consider it gay friendly enough if gays are not being thrown in jail? Yeah, that says everything about the great republican view on freedom, the pursuit of happiness and all the things mentioned in the US constitution and the bill of rights. Religious freedom and gun rights are paramount. Democracy, civility, all other rights that do not benefit the religious right are of no interest to the conservatives.
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    Re: Alaska ban on same-sex marriage ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    It doesn't have to impact my life directly in order for it to matter.
    Well how about that...

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