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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    She came in contact with him the second time he came in. News this morning says that she was in full protective gear. The health care workers are the most cautious, so what does this say for the rest of us who don't have suits, masks, and protective gear?
    The CDC line is designed to make us think that the hospital worker who contracted the disease made a mistake in removing her protective clothing.

    As I presented in the post you quoted, that simply may not be how she contracted the disease!

    Whether or not she came in contact with Duncan on his first visit in no way rules out the distinct possibility that she became contaminated by means of happening to contract the disease from touching materials touched by Duncan (walls, chairs, doorknobs, pens, examination tables, etc.) that weren't properly disinfected according to Ebola-prevention standards.

    The CDC want's to blame what it can damage-control to prevent "panic".

    The very real possibility of contamination via other materials .. or that she's not the only one currently carrying the virus spread all over the hospital from Duncan's first visit .. is not something over which the CDC realizes it can exercise damage-control to prevent "panic".

    The CDC's line right now is all about damage-control, not about telling the truth.

    The very fact that those knowing they're dealing with an Ebola patient would exercise the most extreme caution in protecting themselves when removing their protective gear simply attests to the likelihood that she didn't contract the disease via a mistake in that procedure .. and that she contracted it coincidentally as I presented in the post you quoted.
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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    BBC News - Ebola: Hospital mistakes blamed for US transmission

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    Dr Frieden said a full investigation would be conducted into how the infection had occurred

    "Clearly there was a breach in protocol," he told US broadcaster CBS.

    The CDC investigation, he told reporters, would focus on possible breaches made during two "high-risk procedures", dialysis and respiratory intubation

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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Sorry, I misunderstood your point. I agree with you! What's going to happen when no hospitals can handle the number of sick because they're overwhelmed, though, and they're turned away? Their odds of survival become practically non-existent.....
    It is important to grasp that an Ebola epidemic would be almost unthinkably horrific.

    As you ponder the possibility you present here, we get a feel for every aspect of this problem, the challenges of implementing solutions, and the more widespread horror that will result if we don't handle the local problem in Dallas intelligently.
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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    He keeps emphasizing on removal of the gear.....so what is he really saying? Who is he not trying to blame?
    Interesting point! I didn't think of that. I was more focused on the absurdity of having to believe that health care workers aren't thinking of their own safety first, and are being super careful!

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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    The CDC line is designed to make us think that the hospital worker who contracted the disease made a mistake in removing her protective clothing.

    As I presented in the post you quoted, that simply may not be how she contracted the disease!

    Whether or not she came in contact with Duncan on his first visit in no way rules out the distinct possibility that she became contaminated by means of happening to contract the disease from touching materials touched by Duncan (walls, chairs, doorknobs, pens, examination tables, etc.) that weren't properly disinfected according to Ebola-prevention standards.

    The CDC want's to blame what it can damage-control to prevent "panic".

    The very real possibility of contamination via other materials .. or that she's not the only one currently carrying the virus spread all over the hospital from Duncan's first visit .. is not something over which the CDC realizes it can exercise damage-control to prevent "panic".

    The CDC's line right now is all about damage-control, not about telling the truth.

    The very fact that those knowing they're dealing with an Ebola patient would exercise the most extreme caution in protecting themselves when removing their protective gear simply attests to the likelihood that she didn't contract the disease via a mistake in that procedure .. and that she contracted it coincidentally as I presented in the post you quoted.
    Um, I'm not disagreeing. I was answering your question about whether she contracted it the first or second time Duncan came in.

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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    It is important to grasp that an Ebola epidemic would be almost unthinkably horrific.

    As you ponder the possibility you present here, we get a feel for every aspect of this problem, the challenges of implementing solutions, and the more widespread horror that will result if we don't handle the local problem in Dallas intelligently.
    The thing that bothers me the most is that people will still have auto accidents and heart attacks, and women will still be having babies - how are we going to handle those things?

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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post

    Emphasis on the rest of what he said.....and on Face the Nation too.


    procedures with the potential for spreading infectious material, as well as the removal of protective gear. Removing it incorrectly can lead to a contamination, he said. Earlier, on CBS' "Face the Nation," Frieden said the worker was doing self-monitoring. "Immediately when they developed symptoms, they isolated themselves, they were promptly isolated at the hospital so that any further spread from that individual was stopped," he said.....snip~

    CDC: Protocol breach in treating Ebola patient

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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    The CDC line is designed to make us think that the hospital worker who contracted the disease made a mistake in removing her protective clothing.

    As I presented in the post you quoted, that simply may not be how she contracted the disease!

    Whether or not she came in contact with Duncan on his first visit in no way rules out the distinct possibility that she became contaminated by means of happening to contract the disease from touching materials touched by Duncan (walls, chairs, doorknobs, pens, examination tables, etc.) that weren't properly disinfected according to Ebola-prevention standards.

    The CDC want's to blame what it can damage-control to prevent "panic".

    The very real possibility of contamination via other materials .. or that she's not the only one currently carrying the virus spread all over the hospital from Duncan's first visit .. is not something over which the CDC realizes it can exercise damage-control to prevent "panic".

    The CDC's line right now is all about damage-control, not about telling the truth.

    The very fact that those knowing they're dealing with an Ebola patient would exercise the most extreme caution in protecting themselves when removing their protective gear simply attests to the likelihood that she didn't contract the disease via a mistake in that procedure .. and that she contracted it coincidentally as I presented in the post you quoted.


    Well the CDC says it is watching 50 people that came in contact with Duncan and his family.....WCH had up pics with people walking up into that apartment without any protective gear.

    I would hope they are keeping an eye on those Ambulance drivers that answered the call the first time and took him home.

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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    The thing that bothers me the most is that people will still have auto accidents and heart attacks, and women will still be having babies - how are we going to handle those things?
    If we can prevent an Ebola epidemic, we'll handle them as we always have.

    If we're in the middle of an Ebola epidemic, everything changes .. and God only knows the answer to the question you pose.

    It would be horrific.
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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well the CDC says it is watching 50 people that came in contact with Duncan and his family.....WCH had up pics with people walking up into that apartment without any protective gear.

    I would hope they are keeping an eye on those Ambulance drivers that answered the call the first time and took him home.
    Now that a hospital worker has Ebola and was spreading it around that hospital perhaps 24 hours prior to recognizing she had "symptoms", I hope they're keeping an "eye" on the whole frickin' hospital!
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