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Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

Wonder what that portends for the troops we are sending to Africa. Wonder why the government is so willing to use our kids in this way.

Our 'kids' are not in direct contact with the sick. They are there for security and construction and transport.
 
But it shouldn't be acceptable with professionals. There should be a higher standard.

99% of healthcare professionals in the US are not trained beyond classroom use of these protocols and gear/suits.
 
Certainly possible, but its not new. Protocols/procedures for this type of disease have been in place for a while now. I'd wager there was a representative from the CDC with experience in this type of work to monitor and advise.

But, could be that the CDC created new protocols for American hospitals they're not up to snuff. A lot of variables here but all possibilities should be on the table with the response created and implemented to deal with the worst possible scenario.

Not really, not beyond classroom training. Except in those communities that may have run 'real life drills,' and even for those...they do it ONCE.

The CDC has very adequate protocols and gear for class 4 hazards, and they dont sit on their hands assuming their current knowlege remains current.
 
We are not prepareed. This just on my nightly local news:

76% of US hospitals have not communicated any policies regarding potential Ebola patients

85% of nurses have received no education regarding how to handle Ebola patients

1/3 of US hospitals dont have sufficient supplies of eye protection and non-permeable gowns with which to treat Ebola patients
 
We are not prepareed. This just on my nightly local news:

76% of US hospitals have not communicated any policies regarding potential Ebola patients

85% of nurses have received no education regarding how to handle Ebola patients

1/3 of US hospitals dont have sufficient supplies of eye protection and non-permeable gowns with which to treat Ebola patients

Nor are there adequate negative pressure rooms.
 
Maybe better protective gear is needed?

CDC and Texas health officials said the nurse who became infected had been wearing the recommended personal protective gear for Ebola, which consists of gloves, a gown, a mask, and a shield to protect the eyes from possible splatters from the patient. According to experts, that gear offers the minimum level of protection. When an Ebola patient enters the latter stages of the disease, as Duncan did, they become so-called fluid producers. Towards of end of the illness, the virus is trying to live and thrive. It's trying to get out of the person's body. It's producing massive amounts of fluid. At that point, caregivers need to add more layers of protective gear, such as double gloves and a respirator or a full bodysuit. Those kinds of decisions need to be made by managers who are constantly assessing the risk to healthcare workers.

Reuters

Many healthcare specialists also recommended that only the National Institutes of Health in Maryland, Emory University Hospital in Atlanta, the University of Nebraska Medical Center, and St. Patrick Hospital in Montana treat Ebola positive patients because these facilities possess special high-containment isolation units.
 
Our 'kids' are not in direct contact with the sick. They are there for security and construction and transport.

Given that they were told "Don't touch the locals", the government's indication that they "won't be in direct contact" with the sick is laughable.
 
Keep in mine the federal government is watching over this concern............... with that in mind,how is your confidence level ?
 
Re: What is The One's strategy for defeating Ebola? Crickets...

If idiot isolationists were willing to look at the problem rationally, they might not be calling others idiots who recognize isolating that region from the rest of world isn't feasible.
On the other hand it is very easy to disallow people who have been in ebola country from coming to the US.

How does aid get there without flights or people to bring in the supplies? If a plane lands there with supplies, does it have to stay there till the crisis is over? So all trips are one way? If not, then how do you isolate the plane carrying supplies from everyone? Drop the supplies with parachutes - an air lift?
This is not America's problem. You are free to get help into the country in any way you choose. You should not be free to return to the US if you have been to ebola country recently.

And you've mentioned a few countries. Those folks can't get in a car and drive to another country? Should the U.S. ground ALL all flights/trains/roads/boats in and out? If you want them isolated by force, who will do that? Not the countries themselves - they don't have the manpower.
If people lie to get in then widen the ban. And sue churches who provide the money to bring the ebola-exposed to this country.

Etc. It's not anything close to an easy decision to make, and once you make it carrying through will take massive amounts of manpower to enforce.
It is very easy and would require no additional manpower. The president, perhaps between rounds of golf can do as he did for the beheading and take a ten minute break in his game to tell State to disallow visas.
 
"The One will commit troops where we have no national interest but will not commit troops when it is in our national interest.

Think of it. The troops are coming from all over the US. When they return they will return to all over the US.
Those poor guys. I would not serve under Eboma."
I can't think of anything more disrespectful than calling the president of the United States, "the one." What is wrong with you?
You have asked the wrong question. The two right questions you should ask are, 1) what is wrong with him, 2) and what is wrong with you? Is The One an object of veneration for you?
 
He's blinded by being a partisan hack. He can't help it.
Perhaps, after your name calling session is over, you or Jetboogie can explain what America's national interest is for the ebola countries? I am sure you both can as you are completely sure of yourselves.

I will log on later to check.
 
"Explain it. Why is this in our national interest? Be specific. or don't play the game."
You can't be that dense. Seriously?
Be specific. Or don't play the game.

C'mon, you can do it standing on your head.
 
"I believe it is Obama's October Surprise. If we have an epidemic we will spend billions of dollars thus spurring economic growth. I am sure it will have an impact on the elections in Reid's favor."
Hey whatever that little partisan hack conspiracy mind of yours dreams up. Did you blame Obama for that stinky fart you ripped today too?
I believe you should check your panty. It might be way too tight.
 
I know nothing at all about his intellect. My understanding is that he lied when asked about possible exposure. If immigration policies ard adherred to, and immigrants provide accurate information, there should be no reason for concern.

What should be clear is that occasionally people lie. Let them lie in ebola country.
 
Simpleχity;1063860151 said:
Maybe better protective gear is needed?



Many healthcare specialists also recommended that only the National Institutes of Health in Maryland, Emory University Hospital in Atlanta, the University of Nebraska Medical Center, and St. Patrick Hospital in Montana treat Ebola positive patients because these facilities possess special high-containment isolation units.

If that is the case, then what I originally suspected, which was that we were being lied to, on several governmental levels, was true.
 
Our 'kids' are not in direct contact with the sick. They are there for security and construction and transport.
Right. LOL. Everything will be just fine, until it isn't.

What vital national interest compels sending 4000 American troops to ebola country.

Maybe you, Jetbbogie and enig can get together and describe the strategy for defeating ebola which includes sending our troops.
 
Where is your evidence he knew he had Ebola? All I'm seeing is he helped a pregnant woman who collapsed not knowing she was infected, that died after he left for the U.S.



He would have to be pretty naive to come into physical contact with anyone in Liberia who just collapsed for no reason.

West Africans should know by now what spreads this deadly disease.


The Dallas Hospital has closed its ER. I wonder why ?
 
That Dallas ER has closed its ER.

Apparently due to a lack of Emergency workers.

Now thats interesting.

Could it be that those that worked their know that this disease is beinhg transmitted allot easier than the CDC is letting on ?
 
He would have to be pretty naive to come into physical contact with anyone in Liberia who just collapsed for no reason.

West Africans should know by now what spreads this deadly disease.


The Dallas Hospital has closed its ER. I wonder why ?
I had heard they closed their ER, I suspect since the nurse who not test positive,
said she followed all the safety protocols, those might need to be revisited.
The other thing would be just to thoroughly clear EVERYTHING.
I can just imagine the lawsuit, if someone went to that ER for a broken arm,
and picked up EBOLA!
 
Re: What is The One's strategy for defeating Ebola? Crickets...

If idiot isolationists were willing to look at the problem rationally, they might not be calling others idiots who recognize isolating that region from the rest of world isn't feasible. How does aid get there without flights or people to bring in the supplies? If a plane lands there with supplies, does it have to stay there till the crisis is over? So all trips are one way? If not, then how do you isolate the plane carrying supplies from everyone? Drop the supplies with parachutes - an air lift?
I already specified I support Intensive aid/med teams.
But only in and out by Chartered flights with special precautions, including possible quarantine.
COVERED.

Jasper said:
And you've mentioned a few countries. Those folks can't get in a car and drive to another country? Should the U.S. ground ALL all flights/trains/roads/boats in and out? If you want them isolated by force, who will do that? Not the countries themselves - they don't have the manpower.
Duh..
By the time they drove anywhere significant they'd probably be overtly sick if they were.
(Can you even drive anywhere significant from ie, Monrovia, Liberia. Border Checkpoints too)
They still can't Fly without Documentation/Passports from the 3 countries, and can't get to the USA/EU.
COVERED.

Jasper said:
Etc. It's not anything close to an easy decision to make, and once you make it carrying through will take massive amounts of manpower to enforce.
It's spectacularly Easy and several airlines/countries have done so, including British Airways and Kenya Airways.

Again, what happens when one lands in Bombay, Libya, Mexico City, or Honduras, instead of Dallas?
UNANSWERED.

Stopping flights won't be 100%, but 90% is a Big improvement and will SLOW/CONTAIN the spread in good degree.
Your DISINGENUOUS answer doesn't even disagree it could slow the spread dramatically, just BSes up technical objections.

And again, what's the downside? Ten/Twenty thousand people loose their 'privilege' of International travel for a year?

Indeed, Straight answers are impossible from your crowd because you have NO logical point, just kneejerk PC.
 
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Re: What is The One's strategy for defeating Ebola? Crickets...

What's the fastest way to spread Ebola in a hospital? Send an infected nurse on her rounds.

Well, thankfully, we have Obamacare to save us all.
 
Μολὼν λαβέ;1063859849 said:
The oceans? :lamo

Seek treatment in the US? Sure so Ebola can be transmitted to our health care workers.

Your rationale is so 19th century.

Still more credible than your comment. Assuming for the moment that someone is rich enough to afford the airfare, Why would anyone pay twice the fare to bypass treatment in Europe (say) for the hideously expensive and more distant treatment offered in the USA?
 
Simpleχity;1063860523 said:
Can you provide a link? I see nothing about this on the news wires.

You don;t need cofirmation, you must panic immediately! It's headless ebola chicken time!
 
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