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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    What was the breach of protocol? I'm not seeing it.
    They haven't said what it is.....but the CDC is saying there has to be a breach. Which is why they are conducting an investigation as we speak. He did mention removing the protective gear. So that's where I expect they will focus upon.

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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Check out the suits the Dominican Republic wear.....and this was over a guy on a plane that made a joke about having Ebola.



    If you're going to be flying soon and plan on making an Ebola joke, don't. Yesterday at an airport in the Dominican Republic, a man who joked about having Ebola and recently visiting West Africa was taken off a flight from Philadelphia by men in blue hazmat suits. Before the men boarded the plane, a flight attendant warned passengers things would "look worse than they really are."

    "Once we landed in Punta Cana we were told by the flight attendants that there was a situation and that a passenger may have been in Africa and had Ebola. She was certain it was a hoax but they did not take any chances and had a full hazmat crew board the plane and take the passenger off. It was later confirmed that the passenger was never in Africa and after 2hrs we were finally able to get off the plane," the caption on a a video posted by Patrick Narvaez and Jukin Media states.....snip~

    WATCH: Man Jokes About Having Ebola, Gets Ripped Off a Plane By Men in Hazmat Suits - Katie Pavlich

    Oh, and he didn't get ripped off the plane.....they walked him out.

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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    So either the virus is more contagious than we are told or the worker was sloppy or his gear was defective.
    Or the healthcare worker contracted Ebola from Duncan when he came to the hospital with a 103 degree temperature three days before he returned and was placed in isolation.

    Duncan first came to the hospital on Thursday, September 25th, and, since nobody was thinking Ebola, they didn't institute Ebola safeguards -- today would be the 17th day since initial infection of this hospital on September 25th by Duncan, well within the 2 to 21 days of incubation.

    So Duncan walked around freely on his first visit when he was definitely contagious, touching this and that and leaving the virus on objects he touched, poked, prodded and inspected by healthcare workers not in protective gear, who disposed of his contaminated materials in the standard manner not in the safer Ebola precautions manner ...

    For three days thereafter, everyone walked around and touched doorknobs and restroom facilities and other objects Duncan touched at the hospital during his first visit .. and we know for a fact that the disease can be spread from touching objects contaminated by someone infected with the disease .. and this particular healthcare worker simply coincidentally picked up the disease prior to being assigned to Duncan upon Duncan's return.

    Once Duncan returned to the hospital on Sunday, September 28th, and everyone realized what had walked into their facility on Thursday, September 25th, three days earlier, it was too late, administrators thought, to shut the entire facility down and disinfect it.

    By the way, the article I read this morning indicated that a second person in addition to this healthcare worker is now also "under observation".

    It is important to keep in mind that one is not contagious only from the moment they begin to recognize they're feeling symptoms.

    A person is contagious a few hours to 24 hours or a bit more prior to "feeling" symptoms, as there is sufficient viral community in one's body at that time to leave the virus on towels, lunch tables, pens, computer tablets and keyboards, etc., for other hospital workers to pick up, not to mention via direct contact with other staff members.

    This hospital should be shut down immediately, quarantined, with no one allowed in until more than 21 days pass with no one showing symptoms of Ebola.

    If the right and proper intelligent procedures are not executed immediately, then we as good as already have an epidemic on our hands.

    The CDC should be ashamed of it's "well, the only explanation is that the healthcare worker didn't remove their protective clothing correctly" policy line. Their attempt to fend off "panic" comes at the expense of the obvious truth in this matter which thereby puts more people at oblivious risk and thus increases the chances of an epidemic developing when the CDC will then simply be unable to convince people of their misinformation about how the disease is truly spread .. and then there'll be real panic.

    Better is for the CDC to tell the truth now and institute the proper and intelligent reactive measures, thereby really preventing a panic, or, better yet, and much more importantly, really preventing an epidemic.
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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    That still doesn't mean that you assume they have ebola. From what I understand, he lied on the forms that were required, in order to fly here. If someone has flown here, and lied on the paperwork in order to do so, why would a doctor (or nurse) assume that he was here under false pretenses?
    Greetings, lizzie.

    I had the opportunity to listen to a 2-hour presentation on the Thomas Duncan background story recently. Briefly, here is what I learned. Duncan's landlord had a pregnant daughter who became very ill. They did not know he had Ebola and thought it was connected to her pregnancy. They called an ambulance and accompanied her to the hospital. She was so weak that she had to be carried, and Duncan and the lady's younger brother carried her. Four days had passed before she was isolated at the hospital. Duncan, the pregnant lady and the younger brother have all since died. The ambulance was used for two days after taking them to the hospital before being taken out of service, so it is not known at this point how many others might have used that ambulance. There was a lot more, but apparently sneezing can spread Ebola.

    Of the two doctors who were originally brought here for treatment from Africa - one lived and one has died. Experts fear exponential doubling is possible, so if it is not shut down at the source, health care systems around the world will be totally overwhelmed and unable to function.

    The headline on Yahoo today about the latest Ebola case in the US basically tells much the same story. Trained specialists are getting the virus from treating those who have Ebola. Very scary indeed!

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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, lizzie.

    I had the opportunity to listen to a 2-hour presentation on the Thomas Duncan background story recently. Briefly, here is what I learned. Duncan's landlord had a pregnant daughter who became very ill. They did not know he had Ebola and thought it was connected to her pregnancy. They called an ambulance and accompanied her to the hospital. She was so weak that she had to be carried, and Duncan and the lady's younger brother carried her. Four days had passed before she was isolated at the hospital. Duncan, the pregnant lady and the younger brother have all since died. The ambulance was used for two days after taking them to the hospital before being taken out of service, so it is not known at this point how many others might have used that ambulance. There was a lot more, but apparently sneezing can spread Ebola.

    Of the two doctors who were originally brought here for treatment from Africa - one lived and one has died. Experts fear exponential doubling is possible, so if it is not shut down at the source, health care systems around the world will be totally overwhelmed and unable to function.

    The headline on Yahoo today about the latest Ebola case in the US basically tells much the same story. Trained specialists are getting the virus from treating those who have Ebola. Very scary indeed!
    So it truly makes sense at this point to shut this Dallas hospital down, to quarantine it and its workers, immediately.

    Better safe than epidemic sorry.
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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Ummmm, the vast vast majority of people who come to the hospital with flu symptoms, don't have ebola.
    But they might so wouldn't the prudent thing be to put them and everyone they've come in contact with in isolation for a few weeks?

    Oh, wait a sec. I guess that maybe if we did that and totally over reacted to this thing then people that did have the disease might be afraid to go to the doctor and, in all probability, would cause the disease to spread even more.

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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by Sabanist View Post
    Nice, so you are saying the nurse deserves to get ebola? You should jump off a bridge
    Reading comprehension failure.

    I specifically referred to the hospital.

    Spew your nasty rhetoric elsewhere.
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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    There are also bad players in the field that are not reported by their peers. Some really awful doctors out there that literally get away with murder. I almost lost and niece AND a nephew to an idiot doctor.
    Bingo!

    I have good friends who are RNs, and hear all the medical ignorance and coverup stories regularly.
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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, lizzie.

    I had the opportunity to listen to a 2-hour presentation on the Thomas Duncan background story recently. Briefly, here is what I learned. Duncan's landlord had a pregnant daughter who became very ill. They did not know he had Ebola and thought it was connected to her pregnancy. They called an ambulance and accompanied her to the hospital. She was so weak that she had to be carried, and Duncan and the lady's younger brother carried her. Four days had passed before she was isolated at the hospital. Duncan, the pregnant lady and the younger brother have all since died. The ambulance was used for two days after taking them to the hospital before being taken out of service, so it is not known at this point how many others might have used that ambulance. There was a lot more, but apparently sneezing can spread Ebola.

    Of the two doctors who were originally brought here for treatment from Africa - one lived and one has died. Experts fear exponential doubling is possible, so if it is not shut down at the source, health care systems around the world will be totally overwhelmed and unable to function.

    The headline on Yahoo today about the latest Ebola case in the US basically tells much the same story. Trained specialists are getting the virus from treating those who have Ebola. Very scary indeed!
    I don't believe that either has died.
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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    A nurse doesn't send a patient home without a doctor's order, assuming the patient was actually admitted into the er.
    This woman is a true hero. As so many nurses are every day
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