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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishstyx View Post
    If that report is accurate, we might have a serious problem here. I would assume that the guidelines were followed to the "T". This type of response couldn't be plagued by complacency at this point, in fact, would be the opposite.
    Not necessarily. This is new. Training may have been lacking or there was a mistake. It happens.

    It's also possible there was an equipment failure or a glove may have been defective.

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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

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    But it shouldn't be acceptable with professionals. There should be a higher standard.
    Eh. There is something called mission creep, and it happens to ALL of us. From the security guard at the bank, to the marines at whatever FOB, to politicians, to medical workers, etc. When you do the same thing, day in and day out, it becomes routine. You go on auto pilot. Even the dude who operates on aids patients will EVENTUALLY become lulled into a sense of complacency, if he does the same thing often enough. As for a fix to that, the only thing I have ever found that works is to constantly change up the duties and details that I have people working on. Keep them doing new things. This, obviously, won't work in many fields. I would wager, medical is included.
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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    But it shouldn't be acceptable with professionals. There should be a higher standard.
    You can say that across the board. NASCAR and other pro sports respond to tragedies. The military adjusts policies in response to tragedies. The med profession, law enforcement...everyone does.

    Hell...we have a problem right now in our child care services in the military because people got complacent at one Post (I believe it was Fort Gordon) and now every worker has to be vetted with 8 different types of background checks including psych screenings. Hell...its harder today to be a childcare worker in the Army civil service than it is to get a TS clearance.

    People make mistakes. They miss things. Even professionals.

    And as an edit...if it the infection occurred during his actual visit...it wasnt even about a lack of professionalism or complacency.

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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Not necessarily. This is new. Training may have been lacking or there was a mistake. It happens.

    It's also possible there was an equipment failure or a glove may have been defective.
    Certainly possible, but its not new. Protocols/procedures for this type of disease have been in place for a while now. I'd wager there was a representative from the CDC with experience in this type of work to monitor and advise.

    But, could be that the CDC created new protocols for American hospitals they're not up to snuff. A lot of variables here but all possibilities should be on the table with the response created and implemented to deal with the worst possible scenario.

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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    But it shouldn't be acceptable with professionals. There should be a higher standard.
    There is a "higher standard," and indicting the whole of healthcare professionals is unfair. In the case of this second patient, my bet is that the most stringent of protocols was followed and that there wasn't a screw-up.

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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    But it shouldn't be acceptable with professionals. There should be a higher standard.
    I'm sure we've all observed this from Day One. First, misdiagnosis in the ER, and since he was temp 103+ and just in from Liberia, that seems negligient. Second, photos of Texas/Dallas health employees leaving the Apartment Duncan stayed in are not in protective clothing, wowser, negligience big time. Third, a deputy on the watch list of Duncan contacts was thought to have Ebola and first taken to a hospital other tha Texas Presbytarian, and that's a screw up big time. Why chance spreading to another facility, especially considering he is on the watch list and should have been warned previously that if any symptoms developed to go to TexasPres. Fortunately, the deputy did not test positive for Ebola. I would guess that there have not been formal policies developed to enforce these common sense responses, or else the Three Stooges are in charge.

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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Because we need to nip this thing in the bud at it's source and these troops are not involved with treatment but are building infrastructure.
    If we are there to just build infrastructure, then can't the UN do it.

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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishstyx View Post
    If that report is accurate, we might have a serious problem here. I would assume that the guidelines were followed to the "T". This type of response couldn't be plagued by complacency at this point, in fact, would be the opposite.
    Well it's difficult to say until we get to the heart of what she may have done to contract the virus, with the Spanish nurse she touched her face with gloves.

    I agree it is worrying but there are other factors to consider.

    Many Journalists have been covering the Ebola crisis for some time and have been wearing protective gear, they have gone into Liberian hospitals and treatment centers and as far as I know, none of them have come down with the virus.

    The incubation period is long enough that it'll be some time before we know if the infectiousness of the disease has increased, but the fact of the matter is, is that Monrovia for example has just over 400, 000 people, if this disease has become more infectious, it's gonna light up like the 4th of July within that city.

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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    I believe that Thomas Duncan knew that ebola was in his future when he came to the US because he had contacted carriers in Africa. He believed that American doctors had success with other cases and his only chance for survival was here. In the process he is guilty of attempted murder if the health care worker recovers and murder if she doesn't, even though it's a moot point because he's dead. Jesse Jackson can stuff it.
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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Sounds like karma for the hospital, as they screwed up the initial diagnosis for Duncan due to their incompetence.
    Nice, so you are saying the nurse deserves to get ebola? You should jump off a bridge

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