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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    "Or we can do the very simple thing of refusing to grant permission for people to come here who have been to Ebla country recently."
    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    And then we have Americans on that plane...who are not subject to monitoring ($$$) or quarantine ($$$ and civil rights objections) and the costs of decontaminating entire aircraft for a level 4 virus ($$$) And fewer and fewer people choosing to travel by air for pleasure and business ($$$$) and people at the airlines being laid off ($$$) It could reach that point in less than 2 months, regarding airline losses.
    Anyone who has been to Ebola country should be denied entry until after they have exceeded the incubation period of 21 days.

    You caused this.

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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    The plane may have been decontaminated... But it didn't HAVE to be.

    An asymptomatic patient should not be shedding virus. If they are, it's confined to bodily secretions and the infectious potential of those is time sensitive.

    Learn something about it before you panic.

    Ebola's Incredibly Infectious. Ebola's Also Hard To Catch. Confused? Here's How To Understand. - Forbes
    Yeah, learn something before spouting off. Good advice that.

    From the CDC:
    How long does Ebola live outside the body?
    Ebola is killed with hospital-grade disinfectants (such as household bleach). Ebola on dried on surfaces such as doorknobs and countertops can survive for several hours; however, virus in body fluids (such as blood) can survive up to several days at room temperature.
    It's utterly irresponsible to suggest the plane didn't have to be decontaminated.

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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    What really disgusts me is that they are being *reactionary* instead of proactive.

    They have to react to every new problem instead of getting ahead of it.

    Even I would have put a no-flight or even no-travel ban on anyone who had worked with the Ebola patient in TX.

    People...including apparently the CDC...seem to be very reluctant to impose on people's civil rights and it's long long been known that to curb the spread of disease, that is what it takes. Unpleasant, ugly, even deadly, and certainly opening legal action....it still comes down to that.
    I don't think it's an accurate depiction of the CDC - there is nothing that shows the CDC is worried about impinging peoples civil rights. The CDC isn't supposed to be an activist group nor view what they do with personal rights in mind. That is for others to deal with.
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Yeah, learn something before spouting off. Good advice that.

    From the CDC:

    It's utterly irresponsible to suggest the plane didn't have to be decontaminated.
    It really didnt. Its totally reasonable - a cheap infectious disease control for a potentially lethal virus.

    But realistically, as long as you handle the blue ice in the proper way there should be no viable virus on that plane in a few hours. And frankly, there probably was no virus on the plane on the first place - the woman was asymptomatic. She wasnt leaving body fluid all over the place...
    Many Trump supporters have lots of problems, and those deplorables are bringing those problems to us. They’re racists. They’re misogynists. They’re islamophobic. They're xenophobes and homophobes. And some, I assume, are good people.

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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    It really didnt. Its totally reasonable - a cheap infectious disease control for a potentially lethal virus.

    But realistically, as long as you handle the blue ice in the proper way there should be no viable virus on that plane in a few hours. And frankly, there probably was no virus on the plane on the first place - the woman was asymptomatic. She wasnt leaving body fluid all over the place...
    Apparently you missed this:
    ...virus in body fluids (such as blood) can survive up to several days at room temperature.
    And you'll forgive me if I am skeptical of the word of a dumbass nurse who boarded a plane after being exposed to a critically ill Ebola patient. I don't understand why liberal drones have made this a partisan issue.

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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Apparently you missed this:

    And you'll forgive me if I am skeptical of the word of a dumbass nurse who boarded a plane after being exposed to a critically ill Ebola patient. I don't understand why liberal drones have made this a partisan issue.
    And how many vials of blood do you think the left on the plane? You realize even if the did shed blood somewhere that blood tends to clot and dry in a few hours at very most. Thats not fluid. How much vomit and feces was on the plane and remained in a liquid state after several hours with no one noticing? The woman was asymptomatic.

    You remind me of the people who used to freak about about AIDS patients and wanted to isolate them on a floor when it was quite clear the transmission was primarily blood borne. Hysterical is about the best descriptor, fed by a media that knows it can get eyeballs by whipping the gullible into a frenzy.
    Many Trump supporters have lots of problems, and those deplorables are bringing those problems to us. They’re racists. They’re misogynists. They’re islamophobic. They're xenophobes and homophobes. And some, I assume, are good people.

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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post

    And you'll forgive me if I am skeptical of the word of a dumbass nurse who boarded a plane after being exposed to a critically ill Ebola patient. I don't understand why liberal drones have made this a partisan issue.
    In her defense, she DID call the CDC and the CDC told her it was okay.
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    In her defense, she DID call the CDC and the CDC told her it was okay.
    After ensuring she was ASYMPTOMATIC.

    Lets also note that the first guy (a health care worker) who came to the US who was ACTUALLY SYMPTOMATIC with Ebola flew from Africa to the US and infected NO ONE on that plane.

    This isnt easy to get, people.
    Last edited by Threegoofs; 10-17-14 at 11:27 AM.
    Many Trump supporters have lots of problems, and those deplorables are bringing those problems to us. They’re racists. They’re misogynists. They’re islamophobic. They're xenophobes and homophobes. And some, I assume, are good people.

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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    And how many vials of blood do you think the left on the plane? You realize even if the did shed blood somewhere that blood tends to clot and dry in a few hours at very most. Thats not fluid. How much vomit and feces was on the plane and remained in a liquid state after several hours with no one noticing? The woman was asymptomatic.

    You remind me of the people who used to freak about about AIDS patients and wanted to isolate them on a floor when it was quite clear the transmission was primarily blood borne. Hysterical is about the best descriptor, fed by a media that knows it can get eyeballs by whipping the gullible into a frenzy.
    You really don't get it. Do you think the CDC is talking about vials of liquid blood? They are talking about Ebola surviving in blood left at room temperature for several days. Do you think they don't realize the blood would have long dried up by then?

    I am not panicky in the least, and your exaggerations don't make it so. But I do hope you libs keep it up.

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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    After ensuring she was ASYMPTOMATIC.
    A 99.5 degree temperature in my opinion is not asymptomatic... 98.7 degrees is asymptomatic.
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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