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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    "Has the US stopped requiring people to request a visa to come here, other than on the southern border where undocumented democrats flood across (enterovirus for your children anybody?)?"

    Most of what needs to happen? We control our permission to come here, through visas.


    Explain why you believe this is relevant to us refusing to allow people from Ebola country the permission to come here.


    Or we can do the very simple thing of refusing to grant permission for people to come here who have been to Ebla country recently.

    All of your other hand-wringing nonsense is, well, nonsense.


    This is your fault. Close the borders. Secure the borders. Refuse entry to people who have been to Ebola country.



    I want it to run its course in Ebola country. I do not want the US to become a part of Ebola country.
    As with any viral outbreak, Ebola, measles, chickenpox, whatever, containment of the virus until it is no longer transmissible is the only reasonable course of action.

    I fail to understand why such a simple fact escapes so many. When you were a child, and contacted chickenpox, did you mother send you off to school to infect the other children? No, she kept you home until you were no longer contagious. Same principal here, just with bigger group of people and world wide, given modern air travel.
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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    Actually she was symptomatic (not asymptomatic) before the flight to Cleveland, Ohio. She lied to the CDC about her other symptoms for days and probably took aspirin to lower her fever while in Ohio. Ohio's department of health is worried and are actually in the process of trying to find over 1,000 people she might have contact with on Saturday and Sunday.

    This isn't hysteria, this is turning into a pandemic VERY quickly in the US due to CDC and others not actually understanding Eloba fully or flat out telling half-truths to the public. Rate of Infection is key.. and right now it's for every 1 patient with Eloba, 2 will get it. Right now you have 70 some in Dallas, plus head health officials and idiot politicians (Judge) who were in DIRECT contact.
    She lied, huh? I doubt that.

    Actually, for each 1 in Africa, 2 will get it. And that's with people living in close quarters and sometimes getting little medical care, and their bodies are then prepared by family members without protection.

    In the US, if we had a mini outbreak, transmission would be rare... Close to zero.

    It just goes to show that healthcare in Texas is not real good, given their failure in precautions.
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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    She lied, huh? I doubt that.

    Actually, for each 1 in Africa, 2 will get it. And that's with people living in close quarters and sometimes getting little medical care, and their bodies are then prepared by family members without protection.

    In the US, if we had a mini outbreak, transmission would be rare... Close to zero.

    It just goes to show that healthcare in Texas is not real good, given their failure in precautions.
    You doubt that a Nurse who was having symptoms but didn't tell CDC she was fatigued and aching prior to her flight? Other option is the CDC knowingly risked hundreds of lives on purpose. You chooses.. either way it's pretty ****ty.

    No, Actually it is in the US. You had one patient with Ebola, now you have 2 Nurses with Ebola. That's a 2 to 1 ratio. Or you just gonna be a CDC lap dog and lie about the 2 nurses?

    It has nothing to do with Texas health care. It has everything to CDC failures. CDC protocol is 100% different then what Doctors and Nurses who volunteer in Africa have. CDC protocol isn't a full bio-hazard suit, in Africa it is (head of CDC wore same suit when visiting and he wasn't even treating patients).

    Yes, Africa has different issues but in Africa don't have is massive access to mass transit (flying, car, rail).
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    Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    You doubt that a Nurse who was having symptoms but didn't tell CDC she was fatigued and aching prior to her flight? Other option is the CDC knowingly risked hundreds of lives on purpose. You chooses.. either way it's pretty ****ty.

    No, Actually it is in the US. You had one patient with Ebola, now you have 2 Nurses with Ebola. That's a 2 to 1 ratio. Or you just gonna be a CDC lap dog and lie about the 2 nurses?

    It has nothing to do with Texas health care. It has everything to CDC failures. CDC protocol is 100% different then what Doctors and Nurses who volunteer in Africa have. CDC protocol isn't a full bio-hazard suit, in Africa it is (head of CDC wore same suit when visiting and he wasn't even treating patients).

    Yes, Africa has different issues but in Africa don't have is massive access to mass transit (flying, car, rail).
    Well, given that the primary symptom to watch is fever, and she had none, that's considered asymptomatic. If she's lying, I don't think you can blame the CDC!

    Mass transit really isn't an issue with transmission, unless the patient is bleeding, vomiting or ****ting all over the place. Even if she had a fever, it's pretty minimal risk.

    In Africa, hazmat suits are certainly not standard, and they aren't in the US either. If you have them, great, but recommendations are for standard blood, fluid and droplet precautions.



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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    Just ones from Ebola-hit African countries and ban Africans coming from Europe who came from said parts of Africa.
    After they've been on planes with Europeans and spent all that time with them in airports? And the Europeans still come here?
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    OMG, but that's sooooo complicated, as a board lib exclaimed earlier today.
    After they've been on planes with Europeans and spent all that time with them in airports? And the Europeans still come here?
    .................
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Given their recent track record... I think you're right.
    What really disgusts me is that they are being *reactionary* instead of proactive.

    They have to react to every new problem instead of getting ahead of it.

    Even I would have put a no-flight or even no-travel ban on anyone who had worked with the Ebola patient in TX.

    People...including apparently the CDC...seem to be very reluctant to impose on people's civil rights and it's long long been known that to curb the spread of disease, that is what it takes. Unpleasant, ugly, even deadly, and certainly opening legal action....it still comes down to that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    That's clearer.

    So she flew when she was a symptomatic. No fever, and her temp was recorded before the flight.

    Shouldn't be an issue.

    .
    Thing is...an entire plane had to be decontaminated...what do you think that costs?

    All other passengers on that flight need to be tracked....$$$

    What if she had been/become symptomatic....planeload of people need to be quarantined? $$$$

    The numbers of people who have decided not to fly (as discussed on the news) because of this incident?.....$$$$
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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Thats true, if this starts to really grow, it will shut down whats left of this economy. Schools and business, especially places where crowds congregate will turn into ghost towns.

    And its going to fall back on the CDC and the Obama administration's initial process of dealing with this virus.

    Their decision to continue to allow travel out of Ebola plagued Nations.
    Pretty much my main point.
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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    "Has the US stopped requiring people to request a visa to come here, other than on the southern border where undocumented democrats flood across (enterovirus for your children anybody?)?"
    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    "Most of what needs to happen? We control our permission to come here, through visas. Or going to other countries first.
    *sigh* that does not force them to stop letting them on the plane there and infecting everyone on the plane. Or going to other countries first.


    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    "Explain why you believe this is relevant to us refusing to allow people from Ebola country the permission to come here.
    *sigh* that does not force them to stop letting them on the plane there and infecting everyone on the plane. Or going to other countries first.


    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    "Or we can do the very simple thing of refusing to grant permission for people to come here who have been to Ebla country recently.
    *sigh* that does not force them to stop letting them on the plane there and infecting everyone on the plane. Or going to other countries first.

    And then we have Americans on that plane...who are not subject to monitoring ($$$) or quarantine ($$$ and civil rights objections) and the costs of decontaminating entire aircraft for a level 4 virus ($$$) And fewer and fewer people choosing to travel by air for pleasure and business ($$$$) and people at the airlines being laid off ($$$) It could reach that point in less than 2 months, regarding airline losses.


    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    "All of your other hand-wringing nonsense is, well, nonsense.
    And yet you have not refuted a single thing. You are going with, as usual, 'na huh.'


    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    "This is your fault.



    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    "Close the borders. Secure the borders. Refuse entry to people who have been to Ebola country.
    Never said we shouldn't. I have however, pointed out why it will be very damaging...to the economy and American's civil rights to do so. And why it was and continues to be in America's best interests to control and reduce Ebola over in West Africa rather than dealing with it here.


    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    "I want it to run its course in Ebola country. I do not want the US to become a part of Ebola country.
    ROFLMAO Hence why it was and is in our national interests to have our military there working on infrastructure, transportation, supply control, supporting medical operations, and acting as security (also of ***transportation and people's movements***). OMG! LOLOLOL
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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