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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    You keep ignoring the fact that that's false.

    A person has sufficient viral community in them to spill over into saliva and contaminate towels, doorknobs, sheets, clothing, etc. where it can remain for hours and can be picked up and transmitted to another person, or sufficient to directly contaminate someone with whom they have bodily contact, especially males with the disease in whom the virus survives well in semen, .. for close to around 24 hours prior to the person with the virus being cognizant that they're experiencing symptoms.

    You're simply mimicking the CDC line, and although that's sufficient for general communication to the public of demarcations necessary to present a concept to the lower common denominator public consistently, it simply isn't the truth.

    The truth here is as I stated it, and that's a truth relevant to many viruses as they grow in numbers in a body, such as the common cold and the flu.

    Indeed, the most dangerous time of contagion is right before one starts to "feel" sick, as it is during that final 24 hours of "incubation" when the viral community is beginning to spill over into saliva and other mucous when a person doesn't yet experience the symptoms that they will go about their business as usual, going to school, work, church, etc., completely oblivious to the fact that they've begun to leave a trail of virus on things they touch that can be picked up by others.

    It's not about the carrier "showing" symptoms, as that's a calibration from a hypothetical healthcare provider "observing" a person with the virus and declaring "you've got symptoms".

    Prior to such hypothetical observation, the person with the virus spilling out into saliva and other bodily fluids didn't feel sick so he didn't avail himself to this hypothetical healthcare provider for observation.

    If he doesn't feel sick, he's not presenting sufficient symptoms to even himself to "show" symptoms.

    So for that most dangerous 24 hours, those roughly 24 hours prior to sneezing, prior to stomach upset and diarrhea, prior to fever, prior to body aches, he's reached the "overflow" saturation point where he's spilling virus into his external environment.

    It's easy to buy the CDC's "don't panic" line, partially because it presents a scenario whereby we can "feel" like we know when we're safe, and partially because it just sounds good.

    But, it's false.

    And the degree to which it is false is measured in hours, hours that provide a very dangerous window of contamination that those professionals who must monitor people to prevent an epidemic are most assuredly cognizant of, and will thus respect if they're competent professionals and have not been corrupted by agency politicizing to justify policy.
    So I'm supposed to take your word for it that it's false? What are your qualifications? Self anointed virologist? You can't even post a link to back up your claims.

    Even though I don't have 100 percent confidence in any federal entity, I sure don't get my information from Joe Blow on the Internet.

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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by truthatallcost View Post
    A medically trained nurse got Ebola. She was probably using an air mask, rubber gloves, and other preventive gear. If all that still fails to prevent the spread, then we're dealing with something that is well above our understanding as far as how we view infectious diseases. STOP ALL AIR TRAVEL FROM WEST AFRICA NOW!

    If we don't stop air travel from west Africa, it will likely be the areas with heavy concentrations of African Americans that will be hit hardest, due to the fact that African immigrants tend to settle in African American communities. Obama should at least feel some obligation to protect the people who directly elected him.
    The sky is falling. The sky is falling! It's all Obama's fault!

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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Sorry, if I'm in the middle of a out of control deadly viral outbreak, Im erring on the side of caution and NOT touching anyone who's currently exibitting symptoms.

    That lack of caution cost Duncan his life and spread the diseases on another Continent.
    No it hasn't spread it anywhere. It's still in the same place the nurse contracted it. Hyperbole much?

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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    No it hasn't spread it anywhere. It's still in the same place the nurse contracted it. Hyperbole much?
    Too much TV for Fenton.

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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    It would be nice to get the truth from the CDC.

    Mornin' Fenton. He can't even tell the truth as to how many hospital workers that dealt with Duncan.....despite knowing 70 of them. Plus they are watching out for 50 others that came in contact with Duncan.

    Nurse Nina Pham was among about 70 staff members at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital who were involved in Thomas Eric Duncan's care after he was hospitalized, according to the records. They drew his blood, put tubes down his throat and wiped up his diarrhea. They analyzed his urine and wiped saliva from his lips, even after he had lost consciousness. The 26-year-old was in his room often from the day he was placed in intensive care until the day before he died last week.

    Pham and other health care workers wore protective gear, including gowns, gloves, masks and face shields - and sometimes full-body suits - when caring for Duncan, but Pham became the first person to contract the disease within the United States. Her notes describe nurses going in and out of Duncan's room wearing protective gear to treat him and to mop the floor with bleach. She also notes how she and other nurses were ensuring Duncan's "privacy and comfort," and providing "emotional support.".....snip~

    Health officials urge hospitals to 'think Ebola' - KAIT-Jonesboro, AR-News, weather, sports

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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    No it hasn't spread it anywhere. It's still in the same place the nurse contracted it. Hyperbole much?


    Duncan didn't bring the Ebola virus into the Continental United States and spread it to at least one American citizen ?

    You have a problem with honesty or what ?

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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Too much TV for Fenton.

    Too much willful ignorance for Jetboogie.

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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    No it hasn't spread it anywhere. It's still in the same place the nurse contracted it. Hyperbole much?
    Then how come they took her dog from her apartment and have her friend isolated if it is still in the same place. When did they say the dog visited the hospital? Touching stuff in her apartment would mean what?

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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Too much willful ignorance for Jetboogie.
    Fenton... I work in a resort that attracts visitors from all over the world.

    You don't think I'm scared?

    You don't think I'm scared some idiot will travel here, start exhibiting symptoms and than I touch his room key or whatever and get it and pass it on to my 1 year old...

    I have to put my faith in what we know and the science behind this as well as precedence which shows that it can be contained, both Nigeria and Senegal proved it can be contained.

    So far we've got a man who carried a sick neighbor to a hospital, then returned to the US, got treatment and one of the people who treated him got the virus...

    It's been almost 21 days since Mr. Duncan was infectious and not in Quarantine and as far as we know, no one else has contracted the virus.

    Hardly the film Outbreak.

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    Re: Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Sounds like karma for the hospital, as they screwed up the initial diagnosis for Duncan due to their incompetence.
    He also lied to get to that point.

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