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Texas Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola


Great links! Lets take it a step further and read these. Why does the CDC own a patent on Ebola 'invention?' - NaturalNews.com

and The CDC, NIH & Bill Gates Own the Patents On Existing Ebola & Related Vaccines: Mandatory Vaccinations Are Near | Dave Hodges – The Common Sense Show
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Look how much money these orginiazations will profit from an ebola outbreak in america, and africa. We wonder why the CDC waited so long before actually quarantining the house of patient zero? and why obama flew ebola patients back in to the US instead of the mandatory emergency response? So they blame the nurses and hospitals when they haven't funded them with any form of preparation? the spend 700 million on sending troops to africa to fight ebola but cant even spend a 50 million on hospitals in america to prepare for an outbreak? The CDC owns a patient on ebola and hillary clinton says its because conservatives have blocked the funding? This is seriously corruption at its finest everybody.
 
Where do you get this crap from?

He does listen to the CDC and it's the CDC that will take stronger measures if necessary. Already they are considering specialty locations for positive cases.

The World Heath Organization said today that it predicts 10,000 new cases of Ebola PER WEEK in Liberia, Guinea, and Sierra Leone by the end of the year. Now.. what would be the prudent thing to do in light of this warning? Is the prudent thing to take people's temperatures at the airport when we know Ebola doesn't immediately present with symptoms? Obama is putting a band aid on a gun shot wound and hoping it just goes away. In other words, he's the inexperienced nitwit that savvy political observers predicted he was way back in 2008!
 
Wearing protective gear that would outright prevent the scenario that was suggested is required to contract the disease.

There's obviously a reason why Ebola is a bsl-4 contagion.

What part of my response didnt you understand? They think she didnt put it on correctly or took it off improperly.

Another part of CDC procedures is to have a buddy observing while doing so. Apparently 'the buddy system' part of the process was not shared with the hospital(s) :(
 
This failure rests squarely on the CDC. They were suppose to be there to see that protocols were implemented and followed.

How is it totally their fault that they didnt magically know beforehand that the Dallas patient was even arriving? How could they prepare a facility in advance?

I think this is a huge wakeup call to all hospitals (or at least I hope so) that they all need to have the most basic, effective (meaning minimum required to treat Ebola), procedures and gear in place and start actively training to handle this.
 
That hasn't stopped anybody from blaming the nurse for not following whatever the protocols are.

I would be afraid, wouldnt most people? And under stress, people make mistakes and miss things, etc. They were not trained (much, if at all) on the gear and protocols and it's a great deal to remember. It's alot to ask of people not used to making life-changing decisions under great pressure.

"NOW" they are talking about the protocol the CDC uses, the "buddy system." A little late apparently :(
 
LOLOL

I love when somebody cant refute a response and all they do is give multiple, "na huhs," so I'll just point it out with 'ya huh' and then repost my response and you can try again with actual reasons why my opinions are wrong, instead of "na huh." If you can.



I see no explanation for why dealing with ebola in four African countries is in our national interest. None. So far we completely agree. There is no national interest and therefore sending our troops there is a criminal act.

I see no argument yet for a vital national interest. By keeping those exposed to ebola out of our country it does not matter what happens with the virus there.

Very vital. Your denial means nothing, unless you can say why this isnt valid: "The more people Ebola infects, the more chances it has of mutating to become more virulent or airborne. If the disease becomes more dangerous, esp. more easily transmissable, then it will become much more difficult to control....meaning keeping it out of the US."

None of these are American vital national interests. Troops are not required. They should not have been sent.

This is not a vital national interest either.

Nothing refuted^^^, no facts, just na-huh.

It is clear that one of us has not thought it through. Why don't you and jetboogie get together and see if you can wring a vital national interest out of the air."

Is there a vital national interest hidden in this manure that compels The One to send American military to ebola country? I do not see it. What mission will the troops accomplish that advances our strategy to achieve our political goals?

Nothing refuted^^^, no facts, just na-huh.


So where should we send our troops to combat the flu?

Are you seriously trying to make an argument that because one disease is already here we should not stop a far worse one from being introduced for political reasons?

Apparently your depth of knowlege on diseases is marginal at best. In the event of another disease epicenter where we had a chance to contain it, of course we'd attempt to so, in a similar manner. (Or hopefully better). Not all countries would necessarily allow it of course. However it all depends on the nature of the disease...how it's transmitted, how infectious, how deadly, etc. Flu, which is very infectious and easily transmissable, would require different methods and since it's mostly airborne, not easily contained at all. But it has the potential to be at least as deadly as Ebola.

I see. So if we prevent 150 people per day from coming to the nation from ebola country our economy is doomed?

You 'see?' You do? Well I gave you many examples and you didnt manage to refute a single one in that comment^^^, just another na-huh.


That is okay. I can tell that you are no rocket scientist. In your opinion does allowing 150 additional potential ebola carriers into the country every day increase fears or decrease fears. Ponder that for a few moments. Will our bridges collapse and the roads crumble if we do not let an additional 150 potential ebola carriers into the country every day? Will sending 4,000 of our American military to be exposed to ebola increase fears or diminish them?

I never said anything about allowing more potential Ebola carriers into the US except I clearly said we had to stop air traffic to stop it, from all countries, not just those in West Africa, and discussed the economic impacts. However the more the disease *spreads* here in the US, the more steps the govt will have to take to prevent it. And every failure, every new case, adds to public fears. And who said sending our military over there 'reduces fear?' Not me. I said they had a legitimate purpose in helping contain the virus by assisting with construction (infrastructure), transportation, and security. Please try to read more carefully.

And magically, you go off the rails into fantasy land...I wonder why?

Please explain what is 'fantasy.' Be specific. Otherwise, what we have here folks, is another nh-huh. Not a thing refuted.


Having failed to accomplish your mission of describing the vital national interest that compels the Golfer to send American troops to ebola country you have lapsed into a strange fantasy of your own design. Bravo. Bravo, I say!

Another na-huh without a single thing refuted, only attempts to attack...interesting....no content so you have to go on the defensive. :(

What did you learn?

Well if you ever demonstrate an understanding of what's been written so far, I'd be happy to tell you.


And yet, despite making it perfectly clear that you know there is a vital national interest in sending American troops to ebola country where they will be exposed to the virus, you are unable to make a case.

Another na-huh without a single thing refuted, only attempts to attack...interesting....no content so you have to go on the defensive. :(



Care to try again?

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I see you need it spelled out. It's not like no one else hasnt written this or discussed it in the media.

The more people Ebola infects, the more chances it has of mutating to become more virulent or airborne. If the disease becomes more dangerous, esp. more easily transmissable, then it will become much more difficult to control....meaning keeping it out of the US.

We know about the flu every year. We CANNOT keep it from crossing borders and infecting people all over America.

Scaling back from the realities of the disease itself, the more we restrict air travel, the more we harm the economy. The more people in this country that fear Ebola, the fewer people go out and spend money. The more cases actually on the ground? The more people stop going to work. Infrastructure suffers, people dont make $ and they dont spend $. This is not rocket science. A true quarantine of communities would be a nightmare, not just economically but it would end up failing and crime and disease would spread. Will our troops fire on our own people? Will the police stay on the job? Will hospital staff? Look at what has just happened. All public servants will go home to try and protect their families.

I've been reading about this...in science, epidemiology texts, and fiction...for 40 yrs. So far your perspective is limited to a pinhole.
 
Of course you failed in your explanation.

Since you only managed to post 'na huh' over and over again, you never showed any failure.

It's all there in black and white.


And besides, I can always fall back on my signature below, in green :)
 
How is it totally their fault that they didnt magically know beforehand that the Dallas patient was even arriving? How could they prepare a facility in advance?

I think this is a huge wakeup call to all hospitals (or at least I hope so) that they all need to have the most basic, effective (meaning minimum required to treat Ebola), procedures and gear in place and start actively training to handle this.

Yeah, it's hasn't been in the news long enough. Come on, the CDC gets paid to react to an emergency.......and then blaming a nurse, really?
 
Yeah, it's hasn't been in the news long enough. Come on, the CDC gets paid to react to an emergency.......and then blaming a nurse, really?

So the CDC can magically appear at a hospital before a patient even comes in for diagnosis?

Wow. If the hospital wasnt properly prepared, that stuff doesnt arrive there by Star Trek transporter. And they've said their suits werent the top-level ones.
 
What part of my response didnt you understand? They think she didnt put it on correctly or took it off improperly.

Another part of CDC procedures is to have a buddy observing while doing so. Apparently 'the buddy system' part of the process was not shared with the hospital(s) :(

How would someone watching make a difference? The claim was that it takes intimate contact, or absorbing the virus through an open wound.

Clearly this was not the case, and that this is spreading far more easily than was originally suggested.

I pointed out that ebola is a biosafety level 4 contagion.
 
LOLOL

I love when somebody cant refute a response and all they do is give multiple, "na huhs," so I'll just point it out with 'ya huh' and then repost my response and you can try again with actual reasons why my opinions are wrong, instead of "na huh." If you can.
I agree. You should have stopped while you were behind. But you will continue in your error while you fail to make the case that the United States has a vital national interest in ebola country. You are unable to make a case because there is no case to be made.

Care to try again?
 
Since you only managed to post 'na huh' over and over again, you never showed any failure.
It's all there in black and white.
And besides, I can always fall back on my signature below, in green :)
You failed to make the case that the US has a vital national interest in ebola country. It is because there is no vital interest.

Try again or don't.
 
Do we have a Surgeon General yet--of course not--with the NRA leadership scoring the vote--preventing the appointment of the Nation's Doctor--so now we have their GOP lackies out with lies we don't have a unified voice--I'm glad GWB had a Surgeon General to do outstanding work in Africa with AIDs .
 
Yeah, it's hasn't been in the news long enough. Come on, the CDC gets paid to react to an emergency.......and then blaming a nurse, really?

So you have seen the Star Trek transporters that could get the CDC to the hospital 'before' the man was diagnosed? So they can be onsite...before the emergency?

So they could assess their protective gear, bring in more, etc?
 
How would someone watching make a difference? The claim was that it takes intimate contact, or absorbing the virus through an open wound.

Clearly this was not the case, and that this is spreading far more easily than was originally suggested.

I pointed out that ebola is a biosafety level 4 contagion.

I also pointed out it is a Level 4 hazard. And the buddy is there to make sure that all protocols, including suiting up and taking off, are done step by step and accurately.

Do you know anything about this?
 
You failed to make the case that the US has a vital national interest in ebola country. It is because there is no vital interest.

Try again or don't.

Of course I did, I posted it twice and now you have failed twice to show any reasons why it failed except 'na huh!'

Again, see my signature below in green.....we all know what 'na huh!' looks like :mrgreen:
 
I agree. You should have stopped while you were behind. But you will continue in your error while you fail to make the case that the United States has a vital national interest in ebola country. You are unable to make a case because there is no case to be made.

Care to try again?

Of course I did, I posted it twice and now you have failed twice three times to show any reasons why it failed except 'na huh!'

Again, see my signature below in green.....we all know what 'na huh!' looks like :mrgreen:

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Do you want to rethink those statements? I found I had to expand on it for someone else as well. This is not about 'West Africans' and their $$. :doh

Not at all, no admittance, no exposure. No exposure, no transmission. Sorry you can't comprehend that.
 
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Not at all, no admittance, no exposure. No exposure, no transmission. Sorry you can't comprehend that.

So we stop all international flights?
 
Unless you have blood in your boogers and your boogers land on someone's open wound or mucas membrane, then no.

So that's how the caregivers contracted the disease? :bs
 
So you have seen the Star Trek transporters that could get the CDC to the hospital 'before' the man was diagnosed? So they can be onsite...before the emergency?

So they could assess their protective gear, bring in more, etc?

Don't play dumb about this, if you've even spent a little time watching the news you'd know the CDC director thought every hospital in the country could handle this sort of thing. He even admits he didn't do enough. He's an idiot who doesn't know what he's doing, just like our President. He totally botched this especially now that a second nurse got infected, AFTER THE CDC HAD STEPPED IN. YOU GOT IT NOW???


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ebola-nurse-called-cdc-several-times/

Un****ing-believable. :roll:
 
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So we stop all international flights?

From Africa for now, or die. Which do you prefer?

The United Nations warned Tuesday that the world has less than 60 days to stem the deadly Ebola epidemic —

70 percent of all burials need to occur without contamination by that date, he said. “We need to do that within 60 days from Oct. 1. If we reach these targets, we can turn this epidemic around,” he said.

“If we fail at any of these, we fail entirely. With each passing day as more people are infected, the number of people infected grows exponentially.

“We either stop Ebola now or we face an entirely unprecedented situation for which we do not have a plan.”

Earlier Tuesday, the World Health Organization said the current Ebola outbreak in West Africa was far deadlier than previously thought.

WHO assistant director-general Dr. Bruce Aylward said the disease — which has killed more than 4,000 people — now has a mortality rate of 70 percent, up from an initial *estimate of about 50 percent.

Aylward also warned that Ebola would start spreading to about 10,000 people a week by early December *unless the disease is stopped.

“The virus is still moving geographically and still escalating in capitals, and that’s what concerns me,” Aylward told reporters in *Geneva.
Ebola infections outpacing health authorities’ efforts: UN official | New York Post
 
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