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    War against Isis: US strategy in tatters as militants march on

    World View: American-led air attacks are failing. Jihadis are close to taking Kobani, in Syria and in Iraq western Baghdad is now under serious threat

    America's plans to fight Islamic State are in ruins as the militant group's fighters come close to capturing Kobani and have inflicted a heavy defeat on the Iraqi army west of Baghdad.

    The US-led air attacks launched against Islamic State (also known as Isis) on 8 August in Iraq and 23 September in Syria have not worked. President Obama's plan to "degrade and destroy" Islamic State has not even begun to achieve success. In both Syria and Iraq, Isis is expanding its control rather than contracting.

    Cont... War against Isis: US strategy in tatters as militants march on - Comment - Voices - The Independent

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    Re: War against Isis: US strategy in tatters as militants march on

    What do you propose to be the solution?


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    Re: War against Isis: US strategy in tatters as militants march on

    So Obama's pathetic response isn't working, ISIS is expanding, some believe that the seige on Kobani was a distraction for ISIS to attack cities just west of Baghdad.

    This problem isn't going to go away by looking the other way, or a few airstrikes for votes in an upcoming election. Obama needs to step up now.

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    Re: War against Isis: US strategy in tatters as militants march on

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    What do you propose to be the solution?
    Clear, hold, build.

    Substance over BS symbolic airstrikes. Commit to victory instead of appeasing evil for votes.

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    Re: War against Isis: US strategy in tatters as militants march on

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Clear, hold, build.

    Substance over BS symbolic airstrikes. Commit to victory instead of appeasing evil for votes.
    What does this mean? Troops on the ground in direct conflict with ISIS? Bombing unconditionally? A combination?


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    Re: War against Isis: US strategy in tatters as militants march on

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    What does this mean? Troops on the ground in direct conflict with ISIS? Bombing unconditionally? A combination?
    What it means is sending a force to clear out ISIS, followed by leaving a small force to hold and rebuild the nation. You can't win a war by airstrikes alone. Obama was drug kicking and screaming into the conflict, but poking them with a stick while not doing anything to substantively to win is the worst thing one could do. Hopefully thats not too hard for you to understand.

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    Re: War against Isis: US strategy in tatters as militants march on

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    What it means is sending a force to clear out ISIS, followed by leaving a small force to hold and rebuild the nation. You can't win a war by airstrikes alone. Obama was drug kicking and screaming into the conflict, but poking them with a stick while not doing anything to substantively to win is the worst thing one could do. Hopefully thats not too hard for you to understand.
    So yes. It means sending troops to actively fight ISIS? Is this correct?


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    Re: War against Isis: US strategy in tatters as militants march on

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    What it means is sending a force to clear out ISIS, followed by leaving a small force to hold and rebuild the nation. You can't win a war by airstrikes alone. Obama was drug kicking and screaming into the conflict, but poking them with a stick while not doing anything to substantively to win is the worst thing one could do. Hopefully thats not too hard for you to understand.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    So yes. It means sending troops to actively fight ISIS? Is this correct?
    I have a suggestion. There is already a capable military force, on the ground, with YEARS of experience fighting this organization that we could cooperate with to finish the ISIS threat; Assad and the Syrian Military. Also, since it is still Syria, then Assad could be responsible for residual force to secure the area. His family has a history of taking care of business...

    Would you both be okay with this?

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    Re: War against Isis: US strategy in tatters as militants march on

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    World View: American-led air attacks are failing. Jihadis are close to taking Kobani, in Syria and in Iraq western Baghdad is now under serious threat

    America's plans to fight Islamic State are in ruins as the militant group's fighters come close to capturing Kobani and have inflicted a heavy defeat on the Iraqi army west of Baghdad.

    The US-led air attacks launched against Islamic State (also known as Isis) on 8 August in Iraq and 23 September in Syria have not worked. President Obama's plan to "degrade and destroy" Islamic State has not even begun to achieve success. In both Syria and Iraq, Isis is expanding its control rather than contracting.

    Cont... War against Isis: US strategy in tatters as militants march on - Comment - Voices - The Independent
    The fact is we have no strategy...Obama even said so......He is afraid to offend radical Islam.
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    Re: War against Isis: US strategy in tatters as militants march on

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    The fact is we have no strategy...Obama even said so......He is afraid to offend radical Islam.


    He's been droning the **** out of these people for six years; now he's "afraid to offend" them. You guys believe some really weird stuff, man.
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