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    Re: War against Isis: US strategy in tatters as militants march on

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    I have a suggestion. There is already a capable military force, on the ground, with YEARS of experience fighting this organization that we could cooperate with to finish the ISIS threat; Assad and the Syrian Military. Also, since it is still Syria, then Assad could be responsible for residual force to secure the area. His family has a history of taking care of business...

    Would you both be okay with this?
    My support lies behind this option: We actively arm the Kurds, we continue arming the Iraqi military, we stop our idiotic strategy of not recognizing Assad, and stop backing the "moderate" FSA.


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    Re: War against Isis: US strategy in tatters as militants march on

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    I have a suggestion. There is already a capable military force, on the ground, with YEARS of experience fighting this organization that we could cooperate with to finish the ISIS threat; Assad and the Syrian Military. Also, since it is still Syria, then Assad could be responsible for residual force to secure the area. His family has a history of taking care of business...

    Would you both be okay with this?
    I dont disagree about the SAA, but they have demonstrated they are ineffective, and they are restricted to Syria. How many years do you think they need before they can even expel or kill ISIS even in western Syria?

    I'd be fine with them trying, but the outcome of years of war suggests they aren't up to it. And then there's what to do about ISIS in Iraq.

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    Re: War against Isis: US strategy in tatters as militants march on

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    The fact is we have no strategy...Obama even said so......He is afraid to offend radical Islam.
    Indeed, and yet he speaks to the US as if he means to take care of the problem. What he actually means is he will do all that he can to benefit him politically without doing anything of import.

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    Re: War against Isis: US strategy in tatters as militants march on

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post


    He's been droning the **** out of these people for six years; now he's "afraid to offend" them. You guys believe some really weird stuff, man.
    He's only carried out a few strikes a few times, and even if he was droning the **** out of them-that is no substitute to troops on the ground.

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    Re: War against Isis: US strategy in tatters as militants march on

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    My support lies behind this option: We actively arm the Kurds, we continue arming the Iraqi military, we stop our idiotic strategy of not recognizing Assad, and stop backing the "moderate" FSA.
    Ok, and we are doing that-what if its not enough, what then?

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    Re: War against Isis: US strategy in tatters as militants march on

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Ok, and we are doing that-what if its not enough, what then?
    No we arent. We dont recognize the Syrian government, we are not arming the Kurds, and we continue to back the "moderates FSA"....


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    Re: War against Isis: US strategy in tatters as militants march on

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    My support lies behind this option: We actively arm the Kurds, we continue arming the Iraqi military, we stop our idiotic strategy of not recognizing Assad, and stop backing the "moderate" FSA.
    It's even worse with the FSA. It'll be at least six months before the FSA is trained enough where they can actually contribute in the war effort.

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I dont disagree about the SAA, but they have demonstrated they are ineffective, and they are restricted to Syria. How many years do you think they need before they can even expel or kill ISIS even in western Syria?

    I'd be fine with them trying, but the outcome of years of war suggests they aren't up to it. And then there's what to do about ISIS in Iraq.
    I'm not saying the SAA can do it alone, but I think if we ran a campaign with Allied Air Power backing up the SAA. with Special Forces embedded to call in close air support to keep the front lines moving, just like we did in Afghanistan with the Northern Alliance. Combine this with a Joint Operations Command based out of Doha, we could create a makeshift alliance between Iraq, Syria, US and other allied powers to form a joint strategy with a coordinated invasion. If this was done, we could have ISIS mopped up within a matter of weeks. There's no power on this planet that can stand up to a war on two fronts, (three if we got the Turks involved, but they want Assad out even more than the US does...)

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    Re: War against Isis: US strategy in tatters as militants march on

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    What do you propose to be the solution?
    The solution is to stop fiddle ****ing around and inflict massive casualties upon the enemy. I know it sounds crazy, but bombing empty buildings, in the middle of the night, isn't going to accomplish anything.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: War against Isis: US strategy in tatters as militants march on

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The solution is to stop fiddle ****ing around and inflict massive casualties upon the enemy. I know it sounds crazy, but bombing empty buildings, in the middle of the night, isn't going to accomplish anything.
    I've said this elsewhere, but it's worth repeating, only one time in the history of Strategic Bombing, has a nation ever capitulated from being bombed.... and I don't think we're at the point we need to start nuking hut villages...

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    Re: War against Isis: US strategy in tatters as militants march on

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    My support lies behind this option: We actively arm the Kurds, we continue arming the Iraqi military, we stop our idiotic strategy of not recognizing Assad, and stop backing the "moderate" FSA.
    Greetings, TDS.

    Totally agree! Assad is a college-educated man who wants to bring his country into the 21st century, fighting those savages who want to go back to the dark ages. He may be a bastard, but his people like him, and he is supporting and aiding the Kurds - the same brave Kurds who successfully rescued those villagers, including women and children, BTW, that were stranded on the mountain without food and water while ISIS waited to kill them! Also, it has been proven by inspectors from the UN that Assad was not behind the Sarin gas attacks on the Syrian people, but rather it was the rebels that want to topple his government - rebels we are apparently supporting! What's going on here? :

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