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    Re: War against Isis: US strategy in tatters as militants march on

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    Re: War against Isis: US strategy in tatters as militants march on

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    So its a religious issue not a geopolitical issue?
    No, it's more geopolitical.
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    Re: War against Isis: US strategy in tatters as militants march on

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    Well when you declare war on 25% of the wars population let me know how it turns out since you know a lot about developing strategy behind the keys of World of Warcraft. Point and click man! Point and click!
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    Re: War against Isis: US strategy in tatters as militants march on

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    Are you working toward ignore? I have been polite to you. Is there something in your character that makes it hard to learn from someone willing to teach you?
    Ohh yes great teacher. Teach me all your knowledge. Islam=bad. Muslims=bad. What else do i need to know?


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    Re: War against Isis: US strategy in tatters as militants march on

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    No, it's more geopolitical.
    So we agree?


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    Re: War against Isis: US strategy in tatters as militants march on

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    I used to be. My role was one level lower. I was a Plans kind of guy.
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    Re: War against Isis: US strategy in tatters as militants march on

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    But again-what happens when ISIS takes over? What if Saudi Arabia and Iran wont or cant fight them? What happens if they get into a proxy war there? What happens when ISIS uses its territory to attack US interests and our allies in the region?

    The truth is that ISIS is evil, something we haven't seen to this degree for some time. The US made the mess in Iraq, we should clean it up. How do you expect to win the war on terror when you scede territory to the enemy based on a politicians deadline?
    War on Terror? What's that? A bad joke? Who are we at war with? If ISIS fine. If Syria fine. We have to be at war with a somebody not something. Whoever we are at war with then we need to deal with them in a quick and brutally efficient manner. That means we drop all pretense of civility it is a luxury we can no longer afford. Otherwise we end up doing Iraq 3.0 and Afghanistan 2.0. We don't need to be doing that. We cant afford to do it yet again.

    Its not our mess to clean up it theirs, Iran and Saudi Arabia. They are the ones who have already had a proxy war going they have been funding and equipping these groups far more so than us. Let them deal with the consequence. Their energy is not near as useful anymore and to be frank it is in our interests to let them ride the storm and take some hits on their infrastructure. We would make money off the increase in fuel prices, we are now number one in the world in production. If they get into a proxy war so be it its none of our concern unless ISIS or their ilk come here. If they do that we then we annihilate them, literally kill every man woman and child, and every other living thing within their territory and then leave a barren wasteland and call it peace. Like I said it is in our interests to be more mercantile about this and leave the morality at our shores. They seem intent on butchering each other. That's good for US. We can take advantage of that to our own ends and profit handsomely and improve our stature. Getting involved militarily in other than an extremely limited way is detrimental to us. They meaning the combatants need what we can provide materially, lets provide them that preferably at a profit.
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    Re: War against Isis: US strategy in tatters as militants march on

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Just curious-do you think the US has an ISIS problem?
    Yes and no. They are a problem. A minor one. They can be dealt with very easily ourselves if we so desired. However they are not enough of a threat to warrant action especially since they are busy with other things, like Syria and the Kurds and Iraq. My view is simple sell their enemies lots of firepower and ammunition and let them take a stab at taking the vermin out. If they cant at that point we can clean house if they present a greater threat. As of now they are a minimal threat at best if the Kurds and Iraq can keep them occupied. I wouldn't do anything except sell weapons and ammunition and intelligence services, until or if Saudi Arabia and Iran failed to handle them. At which point we would see the writing on the wall, and go bug hunting if we were smart.
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    Re: War against Isis: US strategy in tatters as militants march on

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    War on Terror? What's that? A bad joke? Who are we at war with? If ISIS fine. If Syria fine. We have to be at war with a somebody not something. Whoever we are at war with then we need to deal with them in a quick and brutally efficient manner. That means we drop all pretense of civility it is a luxury we can no longer afford. Otherwise we end up doing Iraq 3.0 and Afghanistan 2.0. We don't need to be doing that. We cant afford to do it yet again.

    Its not our mess to clean up it theirs, Iran and Saudi Arabia. They are the ones who have already had a proxy war going they have been funding and equipping these groups far more so than us. Let them deal with the consequence. Their energy is not near as useful anymore and to be frank it is in our interests to let them ride the storm and take some hits on their infrastructure. We would make money off the increase in fuel prices, we are now number one in the world in production. If they get into a proxy war so be it its none of our concern unless ISIS or their ilk come here. If they do that we then we annihilate them, literally kill every man woman and child, and every other living thing within their territory and then leave a barren wasteland and call it peace. Like I said it is in our interests to be more mercantile about this and leave the morality at our shores. They seem intent on butchering each other. That's good for US. We can take advantage of that to our own ends and profit handsomely and improve our stature. Getting involved militarily in other than an extremely limited way is detrimental to us. They meaning the combatants need what we can provide materially, lets provide them that preferably at a profit.
    How do we deal with ISIS? They are there because we aren't-we let them fill the vacuum.
    As for oil, while its true we are the number one producer, oil prices are set on a world market, and so what happens there impacts us here.

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    Re: War against Isis: US strategy in tatters as militants march on

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Yes and no. They are a problem. A minor one. They can be dealt with very easily ourselves if we so desired. However they are not enough of a threat to warrant action especially since they are busy with other things, like Syria and the Kurds and Iraq. My view is simple sell their enemies lots of firepower and ammunition and let them take a stab at taking the vermin out. If they cant at that point we can clean house if they present a greater threat. As of now they are a minimal threat at best if the Kurds and Iraq can keep them occupied. I wouldn't do anything except sell weapons and ammunition and intelligence services, until or if Saudi Arabia and Iran failed to handle them. At which point we would see the writing on the wall, and go bug hunting if we were smart.
    Ok. Just wanted to be clear-you are saying you realize they may become a bigger threat but want to wait.

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