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    Re: War against Isis: US strategy in tatters as militants march on

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    You lose any and all ability to be taken seriously when you post nonsense like this.
    Not in the eyes of anyone who matters.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: War against Isis: US strategy in tatters as militants march on

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Kobani, it appears-was a distraction as ISIS struck towards Baghdad.

    We aren't exactly bombing the hell out of them.

    If you approach this mess with the assumption that Obama does not aim to win nor provide substantive actions everything will be illuminated.
    Obama isn't much of a tactician, neither.

    I bet it's like Pee Wee's Playhouse, working for Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: War against Isis: US strategy in tatters as militants march on

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Obama isn't much of a tactician, neither.

    I bet it's like Pee Wee's Playhouse, working for Obama.
    Amateur hour, for the last 6 years.

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    Re: War against Isis: US strategy in tatters as militants march on

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    You lose any and all ability to be taken seriously when you post nonsense like this.
    Did he support the overthrow of US ally Mubarak? Who took his place? Islamofascists.
    Did he support the overthrow of Gaddafi? Who took his place? Islamofascists.
    Did he fail to keep troops in Iraq? Who is in control of much of the country? Islamofascists.

    You lose ability to be taken seriously when you do not see him for his results.

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    Re: War against Isis: US strategy in tatters as militants march on

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Obama isn't much of a tactician, neither.

    I bet it's like Pee Wee's Playhouse, working for Obama.
    Through Obama's lack of attention and lack of prioritizing achieving the needed SOF agreements with Iraq and Afghanistan, this situation in the ME is the result. He was handed a fairly stable Iraq at the beginning of his administration, and this chaos is what he's allowed to happen.

    He's once again proving that he's not as smart as he thinks he is, else wouldn't he have foreseen this? Set priorities appropriately? Achieved the needed SOF agreements?

    Now that it's gone South on him, he doesn't even have to balls to admit he was wrong, that he screwed up, and go in and fix the problem. No, he throws Maliki under the bus (although he's not blameless in his either). Obama's so smart that he's cornered himself between the anti-war faction of his own party, and reality.

    And since he values politics over all else, he'll not do what needs to be done to effectively combat ISIS / ISIL, but rather **** around with closing Gitmo, **** around increasing EPA regulations, and it's related economic retardation, **** around with yet another bogus war on women . . .

    Anyone detecting a pattern here yet?

    Where Obama gets his priorities is a mystery. By what measurable aspect of his administration's performance does he believe that he's the effective insightful trustworthy leader that he imagines himself to be? Of course, surrounded by hand picked sycophants who can only reinforce that self-image, isn't any of the above either.

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    Re: War against Isis: US strategy in tatters as militants march on

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    My support lies behind this option: We actively arm the Kurds, we continue arming the Iraqi military, we stop our idiotic strategy of not recognizing Assad, and stop backing the "moderate" FSA.
    still won't work. Nothing short of a massive and lengthy US intervension will solve the problems the middle east has.
    - There was never a good war, or a bad peace.
    - Idealistically, everything should work as you planed it to. Realistically, it depends on how idealistic you are as to the measure of success.
    - Better to be a pessimist before, and an optimist afterwords.

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    Re: War against Isis: US strategy in tatters as militants march on

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    still won't work. Nothing short of a massive and lengthy US intervension will solve the problems the middle east has.
    We have been told over and over again intervention will solve all our problems. Korea, it didnt solve anything, Vietnam it didnt, Iraq it didnt, know we need to repeat the same strategy over again. When will we learn?
    We are not experiencing the boomerange effect.


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    Re: War against Isis: US strategy in tatters as militants march on

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    We have been told over and over again intervention will solve all our problems. Korea, it didnt solve anything, Vietnam it didnt, Iraq it didnt, know we need to repeat the same strategy over again. When will we learn?
    We are not experiencing the boomerange effect.
    To win a war the right strategy is required.

    When Islam is the problem we cannot win when we shadowbox. To defeat the monsters one must first defeat the monsters political-religion.

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    Re: War against Isis: US strategy in tatters as militants march on

    The US strategy is simple...bomb ISIS, ISIS uses this to greatly aid recruitment worldwide, America eventually forced to put 'boots on the ground', many Americans die, POTUS eventually states 'mission accomplished, American troops leave, situation ends up worse then when it started.

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    Re: War against Isis: US strategy in tatters as militants march on

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    To win a war the right strategy is required.
    No way!? Really?


    When Islam is the problem we cannot win when we shadowbox. To defeat the monsters one must first defeat the monsters political-religion.
    So a new crusade? Great strategy.


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