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South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

Paleocon said:
I can't help it if you don't know what the word "theocracy" means.
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I can't help it if you do not see what incredible harm can be done by pushing your personal religion or belief system can do.

The solution is simple. You want divorce to be against law. Well, you cannot impose your religious/metaphysical beliefs on others like that. Get a grip of yourself and just don't get a divorce. Ok, if you make your spouse a miserable mess, you may not have a choice...but just smile at her and say "honey, I know we are legally divorced, but just know, ontologically speaking, we are married forever". At which she will likely roll her eyes sarcastically at you and get a restraining order.:lamo
 
WCH said:
It wasn't all offending of religion . Lots of revisionist history, bad science, PC crap, etc.
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Can you be specific?

What 8 hours a day worth of material did you have to undo at home?

You do understand that as a parent, you can influence and teach your child, right?
 
Paleocon said:
I don't suppose there would be much of one. Nevertheless the term "theocracy" is not correct.



Human beings do not get their own divine laws.
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Oh, so now you think Leviticus was written by man? Blasphemy.
 
roguenuke said:
See, you don't get to teach my children your religious beliefs in school because you don't have any facts/evidence to back them up.
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Judging from how you talk about other people's beliefs (particularly religious) your kids having probably gone too far over to the dark side.

But I'd like to give it a go.
 
WCH said:
Judging from how you talk about other people's beliefs (particularly religious) your kids having probably gone too far over to the dark side.

But I'd like to give it a go.
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You aren't coming near my kids. They are being taught about religions, all religions.
 
roguenuke said:
No. It is because reason is overcoming religion.
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REASON: : a fact, condition, or situation that makes it proper or appropriate to do something, feel something, etc.

Guessing y'all are going for the 'feel something'?

A very shallow and porous excuse for logic.
 
roguenuke said:
As I've said, prove me wrong. Prove that God is on your side without referencing a religious text. Quantifiable, verifiable evidence.
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According to you and yours, we can't even prove there is a God much less whose side he's on. I don't think he picks sides. (thus the free will)
 
blarg said:
you seem fines with restrictions on people when it comes to homosexuality so long as those restrictions are against homosexuals

why should we allow that crap?
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We just don't want you stealing marriage. (holy matrimony)

That's about the only restriction we want.
 
WCH said:
We just don't want you stealing marriage. (holy matrimony)

That's about the only restriction we want.
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Whether same-sex Civil Marriage becomes a reality, gays and lesbians have been marrying (holy matrimony) for decades. IIRC the Metropolitan Community Church was entering gays and lesbians into holy matrimony in the 1960's. Under the rules of THAT religious organization.



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year2late said:
Can you be specific?

What 8 hours a day worth of material did you have to undo at home?

You do understand that as a parent, you can influence and teach your child, right?
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IIRC, I already covered that question. If I had it to do all over again, my children would get a more proper religious upbringing. (As I alluded to earlier, I was a mess during much of their childhood)
 
roguenuke said:
You aren't coming near my kids. They are being taught about religions, all religions.
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Are you telling which ones they should believe or that some are run by evil people? Because given the choice and the secular indoctrination, they would pick NONE.
 
WorldWatcher said:
Whether same-sex Civil Marriage becomes a reality, gays and lesbians have been marrying (holy matrimony) for decades. IIRC the Metropolitan Community Church was entering gays and lesbians into holy matrimony in the 1960's. Under the rules of THAT religious organization.



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The key there is *that* religious organization. I have Gay acquaintances that also go to one of *those churches but, they're not really interested in the whole being married thing.
 
WCH said:
We just don't want you stealing marriage. (holy matrimony)

That's about the only restriction we want.
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Stealing? Your marriage gets taken away? Becomes less holy?
 
WCH said:
The key there is *that* religious organization. I have Gay acquaintances that also go to one of *those churches but, they're not really interested in the whole being married thing.
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I have conservative acquaintances who aren't really interested in owning guns. Oddly enough, they don't argue for banning guns.
 
So, since the US Supreme Court declined to hear appeals on the circuit court decisions (all of which support SSM), several counties in South Carolina are issuing marriage licenses and marrying same sex couples. The decision in the OP was just wasting people's time. It was in direct contradiction to the fourth circuit ruling. It was invalid the moment it was issued.
 
roguenuke said:
Nope. I know that you can't prove that any god is on yours or anyone else's side, so then that means that any such claim is ridiculous to begin with and can be countered with just as unprovable assertions.
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So you can't defend your claim? Very well.
 
roguenuke said:
There is really nowhere in the Bible that says same sex marriage is wrong either. It is called interpretation of scripture, something that those opposed to both interracial marriage and same sex marriage have done to justify their personal negativity towards others.
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I don't know what Bible you are looking at, but it doesn't match up with any of the ones I am familiar with, and I am familiar with a lot of them.
 
roguenuke said:
The Court, judges, Justices have over turned the "will of the people" (really just a majority of people at a given point in time since that is all a vote is) on many occasions because the people try to violate the rights of others.
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This is your excuse for invalidating the will of the people? That's not democracy, it's tyranny.

I'm in the majority, in more ways than one on this issue.
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I call BS on that, too.
 
Deuce said:
It's funny that you think your freedom is somehow suppressed by all this.
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It's even funnier how you think yours is. What does this have to do with you?
 
WCH said:
Are you telling which ones they should believe or that some are run by evil people? Because given the choice and the secular indoctrination, they would pick NONE.
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I would prefer they pick "none", but they are still free to pick and will learn about many different beliefs (not very likely that they could honestly learn about all, since I personally believe there are millions out there.
 
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